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==Please Move Category to Conspiracy Theorists CAPITAL T ==
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Dear Admins, Please correct Category:Conspiracy theorists to Category:Conspiracy '''T'''heorists. I converted from lowercase to the proper Conservapedia standard of upper case for each word of a category name and moved all the entries but this locked one.
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Thank you.
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[[User:TheAmericanRedoubt|TheAmericanRedoubt]] 14:31, 4 December 2014 (EST)
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==Discussion==
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can you at least leave the part about exploitng her sons death for '''Political gain'''? (no doubt she has)[[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]]
 
can you at least leave the part about exploitng her sons death for '''Political gain'''? (no doubt she has)[[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]]
 
:That's right she carried this boy to term, birthed him, raised him up all the while looking for some way to "cash in" on his eventual demise. Have you no shame, sir?[[User:Rob Pommer| Rob Pommer]]<sub>[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|talk]]</sub>
 
:That's right she carried this boy to term, birthed him, raised him up all the while looking for some way to "cash in" on his eventual demise. Have you no shame, sir?[[User:Rob Pommer| Rob Pommer]]<sub>[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|talk]]</sub>
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:Get a cite (or cites) and we'll examine the veracity of the claim.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 23:56, 19 April 2007 (EDT)
 
:Get a cite (or cites) and we'll examine the veracity of the claim.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 23:56, 19 April 2007 (EDT)
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==Duke==
 
Is it proper to include David Duke's support?  The KKK supported Bush for president, but that doesn't mean he supports them. [[User:Czolgolz|Czolgolz]] 00:20, 13 May 2007 (EDT)
 
Is it proper to include David Duke's support?  The KKK supported Bush for president, but that doesn't mean he supports them. [[User:Czolgolz|Czolgolz]] 00:20, 13 May 2007 (EDT)
 
::remove it if you really want.  But i think she actually would support him, at least regarding Israel. go ahead and take it out.[[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]]
 
::remove it if you really want.  But i think she actually would support him, at least regarding Israel. go ahead and take it out.[[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]]
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:::It seems that she feels that the US is spending US lives on the defense of the state of Israel.  I don't agree with this sentiment, but there is nothing anti-semetic about it.  One can quite easily dislike many things about the state of Israel, and disagree with the support that the US gives it, without having any animosity against Jews. [[User:Boomcoach|Boomcoach]] 11:04, 30 May 2007 (EDT)
 
:::It seems that she feels that the US is spending US lives on the defense of the state of Israel.  I don't agree with this sentiment, but there is nothing anti-semetic about it.  One can quite easily dislike many things about the state of Israel, and disagree with the support that the US gives it, without having any animosity against Jews. [[User:Boomcoach|Boomcoach]] 11:04, 30 May 2007 (EDT)
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::::So the question is when is an anti-Semite not an anti-Semite; is this like the question of when is a communist not a communist?  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 16:20, 2 June 2007 (EDT)
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::::: No, it is simply commenting that anti-Israel does not equate to anti-Semetic, any more than being anti-Iran is anti-Muslim. I realize that it is much handier, when denigrating someone, to label them as some sort of racist, but I thought that conservapedia claims that this is a vile, evil liberal tactic! [[User:Boomcoach|Boomcoach]] 21:40, 3 June 2007 (EDT)
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::::::Sorry, but we got cites to support everthing claimed in the article.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 21:57, 3 June 2007 (EDT)
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I defy you to find a single citation where Sheehan says "I hate Jewish people," as opposed to saying something negative about the political entity that is the state of Israel. The two are by no means synonymous. [[User:Sevenstring|Sevenstring]] 21:59, 3 June 2007 (EDT)
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:Find me a single citation where [[Trent Lott]] said "I hate black people".  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 22:12, 3 June 2007 (EDT)
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I don't care a whit about Trent Lott. Don't change the subject. Step up. Make your case. Has Sheehan ever clearly said she hates Jews, as opposed to the politics of the Israeli State? [[User:Sevenstring|Sevenstring]] 22:14, 3 June 2007 (EDT)
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:Case is made. Case closed.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 22:17, 3 June 2007 (EDT)
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Where? Are you even READING these posts? She is on the record as criticizing the Israeli state and its policies.Fair enough. That is NOT the same as criticizing - much less expressing hatred for - the Jewish people. Where is the case made. Explain it to me like you would to an eight-year-old, 'cause I don't see it anywhere on this page or any other. [[User:Sevenstring|Sevenstring]] 22:19, 3 June 2007 (EDT)
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:No, I'm not. And it's too late to rehabilitate her.  Her so-called "farwell" did not rescind any of the anti-Semitic venom she's spewed for all these years; and reading her garbage, I do not beleive for an instant she wrote it.  It was ghost written for her.  The DNC is just going to have to live the historical fact and reality of a woman named Cindy Sheehan who took up their cause.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 22:22, 3 June 2007 (EDT)
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Ummm...you haven't even come close to answering any of my questions. [[User:Sevenstring|Sevenstring]] 22:24, 3 June 2007 (EDT)
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:Good. Because I do not intend to do so.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 22:40, 3 June 2007 (EDT)
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Good to see you put your intellectual honesty on the line like that. [[User:Sevenstring|Sevenstring]] 22:42, 3 June 2007 (EDT)
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::Criticism of Israel is anti-semiticism hiding behind a different mask. See  [http://israel.jcca.org/articles.htm?y=620051118152416], [http://www.warrenkinsella.com/words_extremism_nas.htm], [http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/display.article?id=2791]  [[Image:User Fox.png]] [[User:Fox|Fox]] <small>([[User talk:Fox|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Fox|contribs]])</small> 11:35, 4 June 2007 (EDT)
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::: Those two cites (the 3rd did not resolve as a page) are both opinion pieces, not anything that defines terms in anything but the author's mind.  To criticize a political entity for their actions is not the same as attacking the primary religious/racial group that makes up that nation.  Can criticizing Israil be part of an anti-semetic attack?  Of course, but that does not equate to all attacks on Israel being motivated by anti-semitism.  I was appalled by the Israeli secret police killing an innocent Norwegian, in an attempt at exacting retribution for Munich.  That doesn't make me anti-jewish and more than my disgust at the actions of islamic terrorists makes me anti-muslim. To claim otherwise is simply to attempt to deflect any sort of criticism of Israel, the same way that people used racism as an excuse for defending OJ. [[User:Boomcoach|Boomcoach]] 11:45, 4 June 2007 (EDT)
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:::so, Fox - by that logic the state of Israel may never be criticized NO MATTER WHAT it does? Ever? [[User:Sevenstring|Sevenstring]] 12:15, 4 June 2007 (EDT)
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::::When that criticism is based upon holding Israel "to a standard of behaviour demanded of no other country while at the same time singling them out for a campaign of villification based on demonstrable falsehoods" then it is anti-semitic. And comes from "exactly the same kind of useful idiots who once supported Stalin, and waved aside all those who spoke up against the killings and the terror" [[Image:User Fox.png]] [[User:Fox|Fox]] <small>([[User talk:Fox|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Fox|contribs]])</small> 15:00, 4 June 2007 (EDT)
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===Back To Cindy===
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I assume the photo of her with Chavez is supposed to say she's anti-american? Whether or not you agree with the woman everyone must admit that she got into the game as a result of her son's death. So if there is to be a picture of her with someone that is part of her public story then maybe it should be her son. Or would that be too politically biased? [[User:Priestspez|Priestspez]] 02:22, 18 June 2007 (EDT)
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:The photo does not say anything other than that she traveled to Venezuala to meet with Chavez (apparently at his invitation) and make public radio broadcasts with Chavez critical of US foreign policy.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 12:38, 18 June 2007 (EDT)
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== suggestion ==
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This article appears to be locked so I can't edit it, but can I suggest removal of the word "recently" in the last sentence of the 1st paragraph? Bush has not been President for quite a while, so I don't think she recently called for his impeachment. A small point, but I think it would make the article look better. Thanks. [[User:AngusT|AngusT]] 10:40, 18 August 2010 (EDT)
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