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:Women like [[Sarah Bernhardt]] or [[Zsa Zsa Gabor]] were largely regarded by their contemporaries like [[Madonna]] or [[Lady Gaga]]. I see no reason to include historical figures like that, but our contemporary figures can have their 15 minutes. And in contemporary figures, we don't need to delineate between politics, art, etc. Just toss 'em into the same cauldron. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]</sup> 18:30, May 20, 2022 (EDT)
:Women like [[Sarah Bernhardt]] or [[Zsa Zsa Gabor]] were largely regarded by their contemporaries like [[Madonna]] or [[Lady Gaga]]. I see no reason to include historical figures like that, but our contemporary figures can have their 15 minutes. And in contemporary figures, we don't need to delineate between politics, art, etc. Just toss 'em into the same cauldron. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]</sup> 18:30, May 20, 2022 (EDT)
::Thanks. Perhaps what is needed is a new separate section <Some important contemporary women>? Though my point re Madonna or Lady Gaga, is there are so many, many other contemporary singers, who equally deserve to be included. And re Jill Biden, there are hundreds of women, who have achieved more politically than her. --[[User:Jackin the box|Jackin the box]] ([[User talk:Jackin the box|talk]]) 19:06, May 20, 2022 (EDT)
::Thanks. Perhaps what is needed is a new separate section <Some important contemporary women>? Though my point re Madonna or Lady Gaga, is there are so many, many other contemporary singers, who equally deserve to be included. And re Jill Biden, there are hundreds of women, who have achieved more politically than her. --[[User:Jackin the box|Jackin the box]] ([[User talk:Jackin the box|talk]]) 19:06, May 20, 2022 (EDT)
:::Yah, that's my point. Jill Biden is out the door in something like 19 months or less; then [[Chasten Buttigieg]] of somebody gets rotated in. As to Madonna, her 14 minutes of fame is just about up like Joe Biden's, as she departs the gerontocracy. Lady Gaga represents a more middle-aged successor group, and [[Miley Cyrus]] or [[Nicky Minaj]] a younger group. So in the contemporary field, we limit it to two or three representatives, either generationally or competing heads in t he youth generation.
:::[[Nina Janowicz]] expiration date has passed already, but [[AOC]] can remain, competing to become a historic legend like Eleanor Roosevelt or [[Margaret Chase Smith]]. The idea is, the contemporary figures are hoping to be added to the historic figures, although about 99% probably will fail. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]</sup> 19:17, May 20, 2022 (EDT)
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