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I do see what you’re trying to say. I don’t hate The Little Mermaid, and I’ll admit it’s a guilty pleasure of mine, but I can’t find much information on what Walt Disney’s plans were. From what I managed to find, Disney and MGM were co-collaborating on a biopic on Hans Christian Andersen, with MGM doing the main stuff, with Disney doing animated shorts based on his stories, one of which was The Little Mermaid. Given that it’s in a biopic about the author, it would’ve ended the same way as the book, but I heard it was going to be darker with the mermaid dying, and NOT becoming a sister of the air. Also, maybe it’s different views, as you saw it as a child, and I avoided it until this year because I saw it as a girl movie, and something I would hate. Although I will say, it’s definitely less feminist than the likes of Beauty and the Beast, Pocahontas, Mulan, Brave, and Moana. Some liberals who defend it do say it was about her exploring the human world rather than Eric, but remember the look on her face when she heard Eric say that the right girl is out there somewhere, and he hasn’t found her yet? So think what you will, but those are my thoughts. [[User:Admiral_Farmer|Admiral_Farmer]] ([[User talk:Admiral_Farmer|talk]]) 12:46, June 28, 2022 (EDT)

I do see what you’re trying to say. I don’t hate The Little Mermaid, and I’ll admit it’s a guilty pleasure of mine, but I can’t find much information on what Walt Disney’s plans were. From what I managed to find, Disney and MGM were co-collaborating on a biopic on Hans Christian Andersen, with MGM doing the main stuff, with Disney doing animated shorts based on his stories, one of which was The Little Mermaid. Given that it’s in a biopic about the author, it would’ve ended the same way as the book, but I heard it was going to be darker with the mermaid dying, and NOT becoming a sister of the air. Also, maybe it’s different views, as you saw it as a child, and I avoided it until this year because I saw it as a girl movie, and something I would hate. Although I will say, it’s definitely less feminist than the likes of Beauty and the Beast, Pocahontas, Mulan, Brave, and Moana. Some liberals who defend it do say it was about her exploring the human world rather than Eric, but remember the look on her face when she heard Eric say that the right girl is out there somewhere, and he hasn’t found her yet? So think what you will, but those are my thoughts. [[User:Admiral_Farmer|Admiral_Farmer]] ([[User talk:Admiral_Farmer|talk]]) 12:46, June 28, 2022 (EDT)

:I can tell you where I got that information on Walt's rendition having coincidental similarities to the one we DID get, at least: It was first stated in ''Treasures Untold: The Making of Disney's 'The Little Mermaid''', a documentary featurette included in the 2006 DVD release as a bonus feature. It also was mentioned again by John Musker in the audio commentary for the Platinum Edition for the same movie. I guess that seems to imply that Disney wanted to do a full-length animated feature at some point for The Little Mermaid as well as planning to do an animated short for MGM. Wouldn't be the first time Disney would do something like that. Cinderella technically started off as an animated short by Disney, but then he made the full-length feature film we all know and love sometime later. And as far as the bit about what liberals say and the contrast of going solely for Eric, who says it can't be both? She clearly already dreamed about actually wanting to become human, at the very least experiencing the human world, so it's not like she only desired to become human because of Eric. But on the other hand, Eric WAS a major factor in her actually GAINING the determination to become human. Before then, she merely had an aspiration rather than an actual plan to get there or even an endpoint. Besides, I'm doubtful God necessarily forbade women from taking action if needs be. Heck, one of our saints, [[Joan of Arc]], actually became that precisely because of that in the name of God himself (not to mention being burned at the stake by consequence). Also, it was only fairly recently that The Little Mermaid was actually marketed as a girl's film. Back in the early 1990s, it actually was geared to kids of all ages, implicitly saying both sexes could watch it. As for me, I actually liken it to an action film, to be honest. Almost like Dragon Ball Z, if you want a good comparison. So a straight guy like me actually COULD enjoy the film (if anything, I'm more irritated at their insistence at marketing it exclusively to girls. Same goes with Aladdin, and that movie actually WAS a guy's film.). And personally, I actually preferred the Disney version to Hans Christian Andersen's rendition, not caring if the latter's the original (to be honest, I honestly felt THAT book promoted selfish rebellion FAR more than the Disney version did, especially when the mermaid STILL got what she wanted in the end, DESPITE her sisters, her grandmother, and her father meeting misfortune as a direct result of HER actions and them NOT being alleviated of it, despite their doing absolutely NOTHING to deserve it outside of MAYBE the grandma admitting merpeople lacked souls (which if you ask me was an EXTREMELY stupid plot point. You expect me to believe that sapient lifeforms like mermaids, who resembled us humans, who were created to be God's ultimate creations, hence why we have souls, would LACK souls themselves. That would point to God screwing up, which is NOT something I want to see of God.). Actually, if you ask me, the ending SHOULD have been that the mermaid gets the soul for sparing the prince, but then is sent to Hell for the other selfish actions she did in the story, not have her become a daughter of the air. Seriously, at least Ariel cleaned up HER mess late in the film and ensured EVERYONE got a happy ending, not just her. So that was a definite improvement. And I really always found sad endings to be extremely overrated anyhow.). And I had a similar experience with Beauty and the Beast, albeit in reverse. Used to have fondness for Belle. But nearly being brainwashed in College by radical leftists as well as doing personal study of the causes of the French Revolution, plus Linda Woolverton's not only constantly propping Belle up by kicking down her predecessors, but actually having the gall to claim that her trashy Maleficent movie was derived from BATB pretty much wrecked that fondness for Belle (to be fair, I still have a small amount left, so she got off easy compared to the Rebel Alliance thanks to similar boasting from George Lucas, but still...). [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 16:49, June 28, 2022 (EDT)

:I can tell you where I got that information on Walt's rendition having coincidental similarities to the one we DID get, at least: It was first stated in ''Treasures Untold: The Making of Disney's 'The Little Mermaid''', a documentary featurette included in the 2006 DVD release as a bonus feature. It also was mentioned again by John Musker in the audio commentary for the Platinum Edition for the same movie. I guess that seems to imply that Disney wanted to do a full-length animated feature at some point for The Little Mermaid as well as planning to do an animated short for MGM. Wouldn't be the first time Disney would do something like that. Cinderella technically started off as an animated short by Disney, but then he made the full-length feature film we all know and love sometime later. And as far as the bit about what liberals say and the contrast of going solely for Eric, who says it can't be both? She clearly already dreamed about actually wanting to become human, at the very least experiencing the human world, so it's not like she only desired to become human because of Eric. But on the other hand, Eric WAS a major factor in her actually GAINING the determination to become human. Before then, she merely had an aspiration rather than an actual plan to get there or even an endpoint. Besides, I'm doubtful God necessarily forbade women from taking action if needs be. Heck, one of our saints, [[Joan of Arc]], actually became that precisely because of that in the name of God himself (not to mention being burned at the stake by consequence). Also, it was only fairly recently that The Little Mermaid was actually marketed as a girl's film. Back in the early 1990s, it actually was geared to kids of all ages, implicitly saying both sexes could watch it. As for me, I actually liken it to an action film, to be honest. Almost like Dragon Ball Z, if you want a good comparison. So a straight guy like me actually COULD enjoy the film (if anything, I'm more irritated at their insistence at marketing it exclusively to girls. Same goes with Aladdin, and that movie actually WAS a guy's film.). And personally, I actually preferred the Disney version to Hans Christian Andersen's rendition, not caring if the latter's the original (to be honest, I honestly felt THAT book promoted selfish rebellion FAR more than the Disney version did, especially when the mermaid STILL got what she wanted in the end, DESPITE her sisters, her grandmother, and her father meeting misfortune as a direct result of HER actions and them NOT being alleviated of it, despite their doing absolutely NOTHING to deserve it outside of MAYBE the grandma admitting merpeople lacked souls (which if you ask me was an EXTREMELY stupid plot point. You expect me to believe that sapient lifeforms like mermaids, who resembled us humans, who were created to be God's ultimate creations, hence why we have souls, would LACK souls themselves. That would point to God screwing up, which is NOT something I want to see of God.). Actually, if you ask me, the ending SHOULD have been that the mermaid gets the soul for sparing the prince, but then is sent to Hell for the other selfish actions she did in the story, not have her become a daughter of the air. Seriously, at least Ariel cleaned up HER mess late in the film and ensured EVERYONE got a happy ending, not just her. So that was a definite improvement. And I really always found sad endings to be extremely overrated anyhow.). And I had a similar experience with Beauty and the Beast, albeit in reverse. Used to have fondness for Belle. But nearly being brainwashed in College by radical leftists as well as doing personal study of the causes of the French Revolution, plus Linda Woolverton's not only constantly propping Belle up by kicking down her predecessors, but actually having the gall to claim that her trashy Maleficent movie was derived from BATB pretty much wrecked that fondness for Belle (to be fair, I still have a small amount left, so she got off easy compared to the Rebel Alliance thanks to similar boasting from George Lucas, but still...). [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 16:49, June 28, 2022 (EDT)