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:::::::I can see that this discussion is not going to be fruitful.  Anyone who endorses slavery for any reason is clearly beyond any kind of appeal to ethics.  I believe I'm done with this organization, which is too bad, because there's a certain amount of promise here.

:::::::I can see that this discussion is not going to be fruitful.  Anyone who endorses slavery for any reason is clearly beyond any kind of appeal to ethics.  I believe I'm done with this organization, which is too bad, because there's a certain amount of promise here.

:::::::[[User:TheManInBlue|TheManInBlue]] 10:45, 2 June 2007 (EDT)

:::::::[[User:TheManInBlue|TheManInBlue]] 10:45, 2 June 2007 (EDT)

::::::::The problem can be understood as a simple economic one; an individual, in the 3000 B.C., who would qualify for what we call today "repeat offender" status, i.e. he/she has been caught countless times in dishonesty, that is to say, stealing, so that no one would trust the individual to hold a job.  This "incorrigible" in question has an immediate problem, i.e. finding tonites dinner. No, while petty thievery may not be a capital offense warranting death by stoning, nonetheless, watching the pitiful thief waste away and starve to death evoked certain innate feelings in onlookers.  Thus slavery came about, in the absence of a taxpayer funded universal state Corrections System.  To pretend this social system which evolved offends your sense of "morality" is ludicrous, unless you can present some alternative theory of a social system ancients should have pursued that would have provided tonites dinner to prodigals incapable of providing it for themselves.

::::::::The problem can be understood as a simple economic one; an individual, in the year 3000 B.C., who would qualify for what we call today "repeat offender" status, i.e. he/she has been caught countless times in dishonesty, that is to say, stealing, so that no one would trust the individual to hold a job.  This "incorrigible" in question has an immediate problem, i.e. finding tonites dinner. No, while petty thievery may not be a capital offense warranting death by stoning, nonetheless, watching the pitiful thief waste away and starve to death evoked certain innate feelings in onlookers.  Thus slavery came about, in the absence of a taxpayer funded universal state Corrections System.  To pretend this social system which evolved offends your sense of "morality" is ludicrous, unless you can present some alternative theory of a social system ancients should have pursued that would have provided tonites dinner to prodigals incapable of providing it for themselves.

::::::::As the first poster in this subhead pointed out, slavery did not come into existence as a system of racial oppression, although after being in existence for some time, and being common to all societies and cultures, it did evolve into such.  Prisoners of War, for example, always ended up being slaves.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 14:17, 2 June 2007 (EDT)

::::::::As the first poster in this subhead pointed out, slavery did not come into existence as a system of racial oppression, although after being in existence for some time, and being common to all societies and cultures, it did evolve into such.  Prisoners of War, for example, always ended up being slaves.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 14:17, 2 June 2007 (EDT)