I'm surprised that you don't see that threat. That you don't worry about that. I mean, you talk about supporting the Ukrainians and whipping the Russians. And in a conventional world, you can think in an all-conventional world, you can think in those terms. But why aren't you scared like I am, that this could spin out of control and we could all get vaporized." <ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aNMOEQ0248 The 2022 Holberg Debate w/ John Mearsheimer and Carl Bildt: Ukraine, Russia, China and the West], December 1, 2022.</ref>}} | I'm surprised that you don't see that threat. That you don't worry about that. I mean, you talk about supporting the Ukrainians and whipping the Russians. And in a conventional world, you can think in an all-conventional world, you can think in those terms. But why aren't you scared like I am, that this could spin out of control and we could all get vaporized." <ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aNMOEQ0248 The 2022 Holberg Debate w/ John Mearsheimer and Carl Bildt: Ukraine, Russia, China and the West], December 1, 2022.</ref>}} |