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:Read the lyrics.  I was raised Catholic but left the Church many years ago.  But I ''still'' get deeply offended by the blatant intent, and ridicule of the message in that song.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 12:15, 6 June 2007 (EDT)
 
:Read the lyrics.  I was raised Catholic but left the Church many years ago.  But I ''still'' get deeply offended by the blatant intent, and ridicule of the message in that song.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 12:15, 6 June 2007 (EDT)
 
::Paul McCartney, a lapsed Catholic, said he wrote ''Lady Madonna'' in response to seeing a photograph of a woman and child entitled ''Mountain Madonna''.[http://www.iamthebeatles.com/article1208.html] It's bizarre to read an anti-Catholic sentiment into that song -- it's an expression of sympathy for a struggling mother. In answer to an earlier question you posed Labour has governed the UK for about 30 of the last 100 years and has traditionally enjoyed strong support from Catholics[http://www.ipsos-mori.com/publications/rmw/the-catholic-vote.shtml]; The greatest opposition to changing the constitution to allow a Catholic monarch comes from traditionalist Conservatives who want to retain the privileges of the Church of England. --[[User:Jalapeno|Jalapeno]] 13:21, 6 June 2007 (EDT)
 
::Paul McCartney, a lapsed Catholic, said he wrote ''Lady Madonna'' in response to seeing a photograph of a woman and child entitled ''Mountain Madonna''.[http://www.iamthebeatles.com/article1208.html] It's bizarre to read an anti-Catholic sentiment into that song -- it's an expression of sympathy for a struggling mother. In answer to an earlier question you posed Labour has governed the UK for about 30 of the last 100 years and has traditionally enjoyed strong support from Catholics[http://www.ipsos-mori.com/publications/rmw/the-catholic-vote.shtml]; The greatest opposition to changing the constitution to allow a Catholic monarch comes from traditionalist Conservatives who want to retain the privileges of the Church of England. --[[User:Jalapeno|Jalapeno]] 13:21, 6 June 2007 (EDT)
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:::Sympathy? On what planet? ''Labour has governed the UK for about 30 of the last 100 years'' {{fact}}  And we are really discussing Socialists here, and there record of being defenders of the "oppressed", and rectifying injustice.  Even if it's only 30 years, what is the record of rectifying this injustice?  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 14:01, 6 June 2007 (EDT)
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:::Sympathy? On what planet? ''Labour has governed the UK for about 30 of the last 100 years'' {{fact}}  And we are really discussing Socialists here, and their record of being defenders of the "oppressed", and rectifying injustice.  Even if it's only 30 years, what is the record of rectifying this injustice?  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 14:01, 6 June 2007 (EDT)
    
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DAB's version on 'succesful socialism' has already resisted 9 minutes. How long before a SysOp comes? I guess someone will be blocked for a long long time... (and no, I have no affiliation with DAB)[[User:Leopeo|Leopeo]] 13:38, 6 May 2007 (EDT)
 
DAB's version on 'succesful socialism' has already resisted 9 minutes. How long before a SysOp comes? I guess someone will be blocked for a long long time... (and no, I have no affiliation with DAB)[[User:Leopeo|Leopeo]] 13:38, 6 May 2007 (EDT)
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