| | ::To be fair, my phrase "he consumes the earth in sin for all the days of his life" is more to better highlight the underlying point, and I concur that the conservative translation should be more in line with the writing style of Scripture instead of being in free-form; I'll add updates in this discussion section as I brainstorm a good phrasing for the verse. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>(Exodus 23:2)</sup>]]''''' Saturday, 13:13, December 24, 2022 (EST) | | ::To be fair, my phrase "he consumes the earth in sin for all the days of his life" is more to better highlight the underlying point, and I concur that the conservative translation should be more in line with the writing style of Scripture instead of being in free-form; I'll add updates in this discussion section as I brainstorm a good phrasing for the verse. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>(Exodus 23:2)</sup>]]''''' Saturday, 13:13, December 24, 2022 (EST) |
| | :::How about simply "eat dirt"?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 14:22, December 24, 2022 (EST) | | :::How about simply "eat dirt"?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 14:22, December 24, 2022 (EST) |
| − | ::::I strongly think that "earth" should be used instead of "dirt" or "dust." That way, it's infinitely easier for readers to grasp the possibility of the symbolic meaning, with the analogy between "serpent consuming earth [the ground]," the literal understanding, corresponding to "Satan consuming earth [the planet]," the symbolic one. Also, I think that whatever change is ultimately made for Genesis 3:14, it should be consistently corresponded with a change in the proposed conservative translation in [https://www.biblehub.com/isaiah/65-25.htm Isaiah 65:25], which evidently talks about serpents eating dust in a literal sense. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>(Exodus 23:2)</sup>]]''''' Saturday, 14:50, December 24, 2022 (EST) | + | ::::I strongly think that "earth" should be used instead of "dirt" or "dust." That way, it's infinitely easier for readers to grasp the possibility of the symbolic meaning (otherwise, they would have to research the corresponding Hebrew word to know that both "dust" and "earth" are valid translations of the Hebrew word "aphar"), with the analogy between "serpent consuming earth [the ground]," the literal understanding, corresponding to "Satan consuming earth [the planet]," the symbolic one. Also, I think that whatever change is ultimately made for Genesis 3:14, it should be consistently corresponded with a change in the proposed conservative translation in [https://www.biblehub.com/isaiah/65-25.htm Isaiah 65:25], which evidently talks about serpents eating dust in a literal sense. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>(Exodus 23:2)</sup>]]''''' Saturday, 14:50, December 24, 2022 (EST) |