| | ::::I strongly think that "earth" should be used instead of "dirt" or "dust." That way, it's infinitely easier for readers to grasp the possibility of the symbolic meaning (otherwise, they would have to research the corresponding Hebrew word to know that both "dust" and "earth" are valid translations of the Hebrew word "aphar"), with the analogy between "serpent consuming earth [the ground]," the literal understanding, corresponding to "Satan consuming earth [the planet]," the symbolic one. Also, I think that whatever change is ultimately made for Genesis 3:14, it should be consistently corresponded with a change in the proposed conservative translation in [https://www.biblehub.com/isaiah/65-25.htm Isaiah 65:25], which evidently talks about serpents eating dust in a literal sense. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>(Exodus 23:2)</sup>]]''''' Saturday, 14:50, December 24, 2022 (EST) | | ::::I strongly think that "earth" should be used instead of "dirt" or "dust." That way, it's infinitely easier for readers to grasp the possibility of the symbolic meaning (otherwise, they would have to research the corresponding Hebrew word to know that both "dust" and "earth" are valid translations of the Hebrew word "aphar"), with the analogy between "serpent consuming earth [the ground]," the literal understanding, corresponding to "Satan consuming earth [the planet]," the symbolic one. Also, I think that whatever change is ultimately made for Genesis 3:14, it should be consistently corresponded with a change in the proposed conservative translation in [https://www.biblehub.com/isaiah/65-25.htm Isaiah 65:25], which evidently talks about serpents eating dust in a literal sense. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>(Exodus 23:2)</sup>]]''''' Saturday, 14:50, December 24, 2022 (EST) |
| | :::::Your points are excellent and I agree. The symbolic meaning is conveyed better -- indeed, powerfully -- by "eat earth," rather than "eat dirt." Please edit as you think best.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 14:56, December 24, 2022 (EST) | | :::::Your points are excellent and I agree. The symbolic meaning is conveyed better -- indeed, powerfully -- by "eat earth," rather than "eat dirt." Please edit as you think best.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 14:56, December 24, 2022 (EST) |
| − | ::::::Thank you; glad to hear my point is well-resonated with! When I research the verse on the internet, there's a slew of seemingly arbitrary, weird arguments presented, anywhere from snakes supposedly losing legs to the notion that it's about critters and "serpents" eating the decomposed bodies of dead people. None of those explanations really seem to be conveyed by direct Scriptural evidence, nor do they make logical sense in relation to Satan's punishment by God (what the verse is referring to), and therefore are merely the uninspired words and dogma of men. It can't be a mere coincidence that the Hebrew word "aphar" validly translates to "earth"... as I increasingly ponder from a biblically sound perspective, I think that verses like Genesis 3:14 demonstrate the amazing wisdom by God that He wants humanity to fully understand with the guidance of the Holy Spirit. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>(Exodus 23:2)</sup>]]''''' Saturday, 15:05, December 24, 2022 (EST) | + | ::::::Thank you; glad to hear my point is well-resonated with! When I research the verse on the internet, there's a slew of seemingly arbitrary, weird arguments presented, anywhere from snakes supposedly losing legs to the notion that it's about critters and "serpents" eating the decomposed bodies of dead people. None of those explanations really seem to be conveyed by direct Scriptural evidence, nor do they make logical sense in relation to Satan's punishment by God (what the verse is referring to), and therefore are merely the uninspired words of men which almost come off as attempting to twist God's word to conform to their own adhered dogmas (yes, I'm essentially quoting [https://biblehub.com/mark/7-9.htm Mark 7:9 here]). It can't be a mere coincidence that the Hebrew word "aphar" validly translates to "earth"... as I increasingly ponder from a biblically sound perspective, I think that verses like Genesis 3:14 demonstrate the amazing wisdom by God that He wants humanity to fully understand with the guidance of the Holy Spirit. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>(Exodus 23:2)</sup>]]''''' Saturday, 15:05, December 24, 2022 (EST) |