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Talk:John 15-21 (Translated) (view source)
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:Interesting point! But isn't the term "tribulation" archaic today?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 16:56, December 25, 2022 (EST)
:Interesting point! But isn't the term "tribulation" archaic today?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 16:56, December 25, 2022 (EST)
::"Persecution" implies a second party and victimhood, whereas "tribulation" simply means "trouble", which often is self-inflicted from dealing with stress or sin.[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 17:30, December 25, 2022 (EST)
::"Persecution" implies a second party and victimhood, whereas "tribulation" simply means "trouble", which often is self-inflicted from dealing with stress or sin.[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 17:30, December 25, 2022 (EST)
:::Well, nonetheless, shouldn't "tribulation" be used to indicate how the verse corresponds with other usages of the same word, such as in Rev. 7:14, to more or less reiterate my point above? There's so much harmony and references ''between'' Scriptural sections that shouldn't be practically omitted/blurred, IMO. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>(Exodus 23:2)</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 17:35, December 25, 2022 (EST)
::[EC] Archaic? In what sense, out of curiosity? The Great Tribulation can refer to the final stages of the end times preceding Jesus's second return. Furthermore, if there's a traditional meaning to the term that might not be well-corresponded in contemporary vernacular, then I think it's especially important to preserve the original intended meaning as accurately as possible. After all, the Conservative Bible Project ought to ''conserve'' Scriptural wisdom to the best it can. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>(Exodus 23:2)</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 17:33, December 25, 2022 (EST)
::[EC] Archaic? In what sense, out of curiosity? The Great Tribulation can refer to the final stages of the end times preceding Jesus's second return. Furthermore, if there's a traditional meaning to the term that might not be well-corresponded in contemporary vernacular, then I think it's especially important to preserve the original intended meaning as accurately as possible. After all, the Conservative Bible Project ought to ''conserve'' Scriptural wisdom to the best it can. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>(Exodus 23:2)</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 17:33, December 25, 2022 (EST)