| | ::[[Samson]] would have been a star in the [[NFL]]. The flaw in the above analysis is the same one made by [[liberal]]s in claiming that [[Founding Fathers]] were not [[Christians]]. It's where one ends up near the end of the race, not somewhere years ago, that matters.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 15:14, December 31, 2022 (EST) | | ::[[Samson]] would have been a star in the [[NFL]]. The flaw in the above analysis is the same one made by [[liberal]]s in claiming that [[Founding Fathers]] were not [[Christians]]. It's where one ends up near the end of the race, not somewhere years ago, that matters.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 15:14, December 31, 2022 (EST) |
| | :::At least one of the founding fathers may not have been a Christian and that was [[Benjamin Franklin]], but he definitely was a friend of Christians and had a very cordial relationship with [[George Whitefield]].[https://www.baylor.edu/alumni/magazine/1601/index.php?id=944746#:~:text=Yes%2C%20Franklin%20questioned%20basic%20points,sounded%20and%20acted%20like%20one.] And although he became a deist as a young man, he drifted away from it.[https://www.baylor.edu/alumni/magazine/1601/index.php?id=944746#:~:text=Yes%2C%20Franklin%20questioned%20basic%20points,sounded%20and%20acted%20like%20one.] And Enlightenment ideas, which are not Christian, are in the U.S. Constitution, but so are Protestant ideas.[https://historyarch.com/2017/12/31/the-protestant-reformation-natural-law-and-america/] And the U.S. Constitution never calls the USA a Christian nation. While the US Constitution is not perfect, it is much better than many countries constitutions. It may be the greatest constitution, but I cannot say that definitively because I know little about other nations constitutions. I do know, however, that Trump wanted to suspend parts of the U.S. Constitution recently due to the circumstances surrounding the 2020 election. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:20, December 31, 2022 (EST) | | :::At least one of the founding fathers may not have been a Christian and that was [[Benjamin Franklin]], but he definitely was a friend of Christians and had a very cordial relationship with [[George Whitefield]].[https://www.baylor.edu/alumni/magazine/1601/index.php?id=944746#:~:text=Yes%2C%20Franklin%20questioned%20basic%20points,sounded%20and%20acted%20like%20one.] And although he became a deist as a young man, he drifted away from it.[https://www.baylor.edu/alumni/magazine/1601/index.php?id=944746#:~:text=Yes%2C%20Franklin%20questioned%20basic%20points,sounded%20and%20acted%20like%20one.] And Enlightenment ideas, which are not Christian, are in the U.S. Constitution, but so are Protestant ideas.[https://historyarch.com/2017/12/31/the-protestant-reformation-natural-law-and-america/] And the U.S. Constitution never calls the USA a Christian nation. While the US Constitution is not perfect, it is much better than many countries constitutions. It may be the greatest constitution, but I cannot say that definitively because I know little about other nations constitutions. I do know, however, that Trump wanted to suspend parts of the U.S. Constitution recently due to the circumstances surrounding the 2020 election. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:20, December 31, 2022 (EST) |
| − | ::::As an ally of conservatives, Trump caused many other victories for conservatives (See: [[Essay: Donald Trump's glorious victories]]). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:29, December 31, 2022 (EST) | + | ::::As an ally of conservatives, Trump caused many other victories for conservatives (See: [[Essay: Donald Trump's glorious victories]] and [[Donald Trump achievements]]). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:29, December 31, 2022 (EST) |
| | For the record, Trump is defnitely still a contender for the GOP nomination and he could win against Biden in 2024 given the direction the USA/World economy is headed in. I would be happy if Trump won in 2024 - despite his various faults. He probably could have gotten a lot more done as president if he didn't have contend with all the Democrats dirty tricks like the "Russian collusion" claims. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:15, December 31, 2022 (EST) | | For the record, Trump is defnitely still a contender for the GOP nomination and he could win against Biden in 2024 given the direction the USA/World economy is headed in. I would be happy if Trump won in 2024 - despite his various faults. He probably could have gotten a lot more done as president if he didn't have contend with all the Democrats dirty tricks like the "Russian collusion" claims. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:15, December 31, 2022 (EST) |
| | :I'm afraid I don't understand your argument. Are you saying Trump's economic program is non-conservative? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 18:20, December 31, 2022 (EST) | | :I'm afraid I don't understand your argument. Are you saying Trump's economic program is non-conservative? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 18:20, December 31, 2022 (EST) |