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Talk:Conservative of the Year 2022 (view source)
Revision as of 23:52, December 31, 2022
, 23:52, December 31, 2022→Donald Trump is not a conservative. But he is an ally of conservatives.
:::The President has the bully pulpit and can use carrots and sticks to twist Congressional arms. In addition, he can veto spending bills. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:41, December 31, 2022 (EST)
:::The President has the bully pulpit and can use carrots and sticks to twist Congressional arms. In addition, he can veto spending bills. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:41, December 31, 2022 (EST)
::::''twist Congressional arms'', yah like when the Congress is controlled by the opposition party. What's he gonna do, sic the FBI on them?
::::''twist Congressional arms'', yah like when the Congress is controlled by the opposition party. What's he gonna do, sic the FBI on them?
::::A veto only delays the process. A budget ultimately must pass (for instance, budgets are exempt from the [[filibuster]]. The notion of a presidential veto is already built into the negotiating process, meaning opposition Congressional leaders make it clear that you won't like an alternative proposal if the process is delayed by a veto. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 18:48, December 31, 2022 (EST)
::::A veto only delays the process. A budget ultimately must pass (for instance, budgets are exempt from the [[filibuster]]). The notion of a presidential veto is already built into the negotiating process, meaning opposition Congressional leaders make it clear that you won't like an alternative proposal if the process is delayed by a veto.
::::If you want to blame anybody, blame the American and their elected representatives (better yet, you could blame the weakness of the conservative movement in getting its message across to Congress and the American people. Or you can blame the stupidity and ignorance of the American people. Or you can blame the stupidity and ignorance of American conservatives in formulating arguments).[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 18:48, December 31, 2022 (EST)