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:::When you cite those stats, you conveniently ignore the fact that America's natural increase is virtually the same. [[Immigration]] is, and has been (sine 1972) the only thing keeping American population growth going.
 
:::When you cite those stats, you conveniently ignore the fact that America's natural increase is virtually the same. [[Immigration]] is, and has been (sine 1972) the only thing keeping American population growth going.
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:::Incientally, there's a recent article on Ukrainian demographics you might find interesting, beginning with the major flaw that is still counts people of the liberator territories as "Ukrainian". Overall, it says Ukraine population is in danger of falling to 35 million; ''Newsflash:'' it already 35 million and probably closer to 33 million.  
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:::Incidentally, there's a recent article on Ukrainian demographics you might find interesting, beginning with the major flaw that is still counts people of the liberator territories as "Ukrainian". Overall, it says Ukraine population is in danger of falling to 35 million; ''Newsflash:'' it already 35 million and probably closer to 33 million.  
 
:::But anyway, it's short and still worth looking at.
 
:::But anyway, it's short and still worth looking at.
 
:::[https://southfront.org/demographic-expert-warns-ukraine-will-experience-catastrophic-drop-in-birth-rate/ DEMOGRAPHIC EXPERT WARNS UKRAINE WILL EXPERIENCE “CATASTROPHIC DROP” IN BIRTH RATE]
 
:::[https://southfront.org/demographic-expert-warns-ukraine-will-experience-catastrophic-drop-in-birth-rate/ DEMOGRAPHIC EXPERT WARNS UKRAINE WILL EXPERIENCE “CATASTROPHIC DROP” IN BIRTH RATE]
 
:::Another: tidbit: the article neglects to state Ukraine's population was 50 million in 1991 and fell to 45 million in 2014 - that what "democracy", "independence", and "freedom" did for Ukraine in 2 1/2 decades. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 21:00, December 31, 2022 (EST)
 
:::Another: tidbit: the article neglects to state Ukraine's population was 50 million in 1991 and fell to 45 million in 2014 - that what "democracy", "independence", and "freedom" did for Ukraine in 2 1/2 decades. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 21:00, December 31, 2022 (EST)
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