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::Even the single reference for the page makes no mention of "New Ordeal", nor can I find any online reference to the term in this context.  Is this a term that Rush has created or was it created by the author of this page? [[User:Boomcoach|Boomcoach]] 11:09, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
 
::Even the single reference for the page makes no mention of "New Ordeal", nor can I find any online reference to the term in this context.  Is this a term that Rush has created or was it created by the author of this page? [[User:Boomcoach|Boomcoach]] 11:09, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
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:::Rationalwiki has some discussion of this likewise.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 11:25, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
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:::Rational_wiki has some discussion of this likewise.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 11:25, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
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I looked on rationalwiki. The term seems to be your creation, and the cited sources do not support your contention. The 1945 Time magazine article deals with the impending demobilization of U.S. troops at the close of World War Two, and the chart showing flucuations in the U.S. economy deals with the last few decades of the nineteenth century.  If you are trying to construct some sort of argument about the New Deal (which did have its shortcomings) this is a very poor way to do it.--[[User:Franklin|Franklin]] 11:35, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
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I looked on rational_wiki. The term seems to be your creation, and the cited sources do not support your contention. The 1945 Time magazine article deals with the impending demobilization of U.S. troops at the close of World War Two, and the chart showing flucuations in the U.S. economy deals with the last few decades of the nineteenth century.  If you are trying to construct some sort of argument about the New Deal (which did have its shortcomings) this is a very poor way to do it.--[[User:Franklin|Franklin]] 11:35, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
    
:Contract ''on'' America was a spoof? Really?  Seems common knowledge spoofed New Dealers for 70 years and they didn't even know it. Must be more evidence that they did not know everything afterall, huh?  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 11:39, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
 
:Contract ''on'' America was a spoof? Really?  Seems common knowledge spoofed New Dealers for 70 years and they didn't even know it. Must be more evidence that they did not know everything afterall, huh?  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 11:39, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
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:: Is it really too much to ask to drop the sarcasam and just state who coined the phrase?  I'm not sure what rationalwiki has to do with this site, either. --[[User:Colest|Colest]] 11:41, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
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:: Is it really too much to ask to drop the sarcasam and just state who coined the phrase?  I'm not sure what rational_wiki has to do with this site, either. --[[User:Colest|Colest]] 11:41, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
    
:::It's been common knowledge for decades.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 11:42, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
 
:::It's been common knowledge for decades.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 11:42, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
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:Well of course, given censorship, oppression, and the [[Fairness Doctrine]] for 50 years.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 12:02, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
 
:Well of course, given censorship, oppression, and the [[Fairness Doctrine]] for 50 years.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 12:02, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
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Well, you are not being censored or oppressed. I have asked you to forthrightly provide your sources, and you have directed us to rationalwiki, where the cites did not support your contention. So, I ask again, what is your evidence for this term? Is it in Hayek or another source?--[[User:Franklin|Franklin]] 12:06, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
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Well, you are not being censored or oppressed. I have asked you to forthrightly provide your sources, and you have directed us to rational_wiki, where the cites did not support your contention. So, I ask again, what is your evidence for this term? Is it in Hayek or another source?--[[User:Franklin|Franklin]] 12:06, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
 
:I beleive I've answered several times.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 12:27, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
 
:I beleive I've answered several times.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 12:27, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
  
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