| | :If you read the Bible in a straightforward manner without the man-made insertion that souls are judged immediately after death, it should be clear that death functions as a sleep, which is what the Bible says over and over. Also, your insinuation of Adventists is incorrect. SDAs believe that the human being ''is'' the soul, a combination of the dust of the ground and the breath of life. IOWs, death is simply the separation of the spirit/breath from the earthly body. (Ecc. 12:7) Upon death, what immediately ascends to Heaven is the breath of life as the body, unable to function without it, decays. Hence, the soul, dead though awaiting resurrection, essentially "sleeps in the grave." | | :If you read the Bible in a straightforward manner without the man-made insertion that souls are judged immediately after death, it should be clear that death functions as a sleep, which is what the Bible says over and over. Also, your insinuation of Adventists is incorrect. SDAs believe that the human being ''is'' the soul, a combination of the dust of the ground and the breath of life. IOWs, death is simply the separation of the spirit/breath from the earthly body. (Ecc. 12:7) Upon death, what immediately ascends to Heaven is the breath of life as the body, unable to function without it, decays. Hence, the soul, dead though awaiting resurrection, essentially "sleeps in the grave." |
| − | :John 11:11–15 should be self-explanatory. Jesus, knowing that earthly death is nothing more than a sleep because the dead will be resurrected, colloquially refers to Lazarus's passing as such, though His disciples don't, thinking that He was talking of sleep in a normal sense of rest. The fact that Jesus would make this open comparison is clear that death is a sleep. Hopefully this isn't difficult to understand. | + | :John 11:11–15 should be self-explanatory. Jesus, knowing that earthly death is nothing more than a sleep because the dead will be resurrected, colloquially refers to Lazarus's passing as such, though His disciples initially don't understand the parallel, thinking that He was talking of sleep in a normal sense of rest. The fact that Jesus would make this open comparison is clear that death is a sleep. Hopefully this isn't difficult to understand. |
| | :2 Cor. 5:8 is not a solid indication of immediate judgment. Paul simply could be (and likely is) stating that one, in a spiritual sense, ought to abide in their lives by the guidance of the Spirit and not the dictates of the bodily flesh. | | :2 Cor. 5:8 is not a solid indication of immediate judgment. Paul simply could be (and likely is) stating that one, in a spiritual sense, ought to abide in their lives by the guidance of the Spirit and not the dictates of the bodily flesh. |
| | :Atheistic/materialistic and not what the apostolic teaching? Sigh, the Ante-Nicene Fathers [https://www.truthaccordingtoscripture.com/documents/death/immortality-early-church/question-answered.php were conditionalists]; for more information, see [https://www.cogwriter.com/news/church-history/immortality-of-the-soul-what-did-early-christians-teach/ here]. The concept of the immortal soul is a relic of pagan Mithraism. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>(Matthew 26:52)</sup>]]''''' Wednesday, 00:28, May 10, 2023 (EDT) | | :Atheistic/materialistic and not what the apostolic teaching? Sigh, the Ante-Nicene Fathers [https://www.truthaccordingtoscripture.com/documents/death/immortality-early-church/question-answered.php were conditionalists]; for more information, see [https://www.cogwriter.com/news/church-history/immortality-of-the-soul-what-did-early-christians-teach/ here]. The concept of the immortal soul is a relic of pagan Mithraism. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>(Matthew 26:52)</sup>]]''''' Wednesday, 00:28, May 10, 2023 (EDT) |