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::Well fine. But Strom Thurmond was not, and none of them served in the US Congress. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 16:28, May 16, 2023 (EDT)
::Well fine. But Strom Thurmond was not, and none of them served in the US Congress. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 16:28, May 16, 2023 (EDT)
::As to neocons, you'd probably have a difficult time arguing they existed in the 1960s, the name may have been formulated in the 1970s, wasn't used until the late 1980s and early 1990s, and did not exist at the time of Welch in the 1950s. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 16:31, May 16, 2023 (EDT)
::As to neocons, you'd probably have a difficult time arguing they existed in the 1960s, the name may have been formulated in the 1970s, wasn't used until the late 1980s and early 1990s, and did not exist at the time of Welch in the 1950s. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 16:31, May 16, 2023 (EDT)
::[[Irving Kristol]] invented the term to separate himself from the violent "New Left" that took over liberalism in the late 1960s. But the "neocons" all pretty much remained [[Trotskyite]]s. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 16:34, May 16, 2023 (EDT)
::[[Irving Kristol]] invented the term to separate himself from the violent "New Left" that took over liberalism in the late 1960s. But the "neocons" all pretty much remained [[Trotskyite]]s. And Bill Buckley was hardly a Trotskyite. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 16:34, May 16, 2023 (EDT)