Irenaeus, Siteadmin, Check users, oversight, Administrators
351,679
edits
Changes
Jump to navigation
Jump to search
Line 203:
Line 203: + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
Talk:Main Page/Archive index/238 (view source)
Revision as of 04:28, May 25, 2023
, 04:28, May 25, 2023no edit summary
::::::As to a veto, yes under contracts and law that's true, but the idea to give Ukraine F-16s from <s>Poland</s> Nederland and the UK was hatched in the Pentagon, to give the US deniability of direct involvement. And the profits from building replacement aircraft come from overseas, not from the taxpayers. That's the whole purpose of this Ukraine exercise. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 03:53, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
::::::As to a veto, yes under contracts and law that's true, but the idea to give Ukraine F-16s from <s>Poland</s> Nederland and the UK was hatched in the Pentagon, to give the US deniability of direct involvement. And the profits from building replacement aircraft come from overseas, not from the taxpayers. That's the whole purpose of this Ukraine exercise. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 03:53, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
:'''Update:''' This night Russians conduct massive drone attack on Kyiv. So that shoots your theory in the butt that Ukrainian missile defense can protect Kyiv. The drones this night are to probe out where missile defense systems have been relocated; missile attacks to follow in a day or two. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 03:01, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
:'''Update:''' This night Russians conduct massive drone attack on Kyiv. So that shoots your theory in the butt that Ukrainian missile defense can protect Kyiv. The drones this night are to probe out where missile defense systems have been relocated; missile attacks to follow in a day or two. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 03:01, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
===A word on the idiocy of sanctions===
[[Iran]] was heavily sanctioned in 1979, forty-four years ago. So guess what? They built their own [[military industrial complex]] cause they couldn't buy weapons abroad (Remember [[Iran-Contra]]? it was all about Iran's need for weapons). Fast forward 40 years: the brilliant geniuses of the [[Carter Administration]] now created a scenario where NATO faces the combined military industrial complexes of Russia, China, and Iran - after the US & EU shipped all their manufacturing base to China. Give up on you wet dreams of Ukraine ever defeating Russia. Even if Russia were to run out of manpower, China could send reinforcements to Ukraine. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 20:01, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
And China would rather fight NATO/US in faraway Ukraine than on its doorstep in Taiwan. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 20:57, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
Here's a definition of "sanctions": anytime you hear the word "sanctions" or "the government is discussing sanctions", it means "kicking the can down the road until such a time as [[public opinion]] will support all out [[war]]." Sanctions represent a failure of [[diplomacy]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 00:09, May 22, 2023 (EDT)
The Voice of Reason, a former tank commander who runs the Military and Foreign Affairs Network, [https://youtu.be/Kzgb0IbEnas?t=233 articulated an observation the other day] that has been in the back of my mind for months; the Ukraine proxy war is very similar to the [[Spanish Civil War]], which was a [[proxy war|proxy conflict]] and testing ground for advanced weapons between the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany. The Spanish Civil War was the precursor of World War. Technological development of weapons system (such as the airplane, submarine and automatic small arms) between 1919 and 1936 led to widespread speculation that the outcome of [[World War I]] may have been different had the losers had access to these advanced weapon systems. Remember, ''both'' the [[German Empire]] and [[Russian Empire]]s were losers in the WWI conflict to Angelo-American and French concerns. So Stalin too, like Hitler had reason to be concerned about preparedness and implementing upgrades to [[Soviet]] military and defense posture. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 23:57, May 21, 2023 (EDT)
:The [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Battle_of_Donetsk_Airport Battle of the Donetsk Airport] beginning May 26, 2014 provides the damning evidence of US/NATO aggression in the Ukraine proxy conflict. Like the [[Battle of Guernica]] in the Spanish Civil War, it was the first bombing of civilians by the US and its Kyiv puppets. Russia has no need to attack the Donetsk Airport because of its land access to [[Donbas]]. However the United States, needs airbases because of its reliance on airpower. This unprovoked attack on traditional Russian homelands by the United States is the damning evidence of American aggression. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 00:43, May 22, 2023 (EDT)
== Pro-Life Catholic and Anti-Woke Crusader Ron De Santis likely to declare run for President next week ==
From: "DeSantis Will Reportedly Run For President Next Week—Here's What We Know About His Campaign"
https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2023/05/18/desantis-will-reportedly-run-for-president-next-week-heres-what-we-know-about-his-campaign/?sh=6baf4a6e5894
Why complain and grumble about "the LGBTQ" movement and Covid vaccines if you don't want to do something to stop it?
1. Ron De Santis is very strong against unnecessary, untested and harmful Covid vaccines. Quite rightly, given the recent scam with the Pfizer Director. Trump on the other hand called himself "Father of the Vaccine" and didn't even remotely oppose it.
2. Ron De Santis is strongly Pro-Life and signed a 6 week Heartbeat Abortion Ban. Trump criticized him, and De Santis shot back: "DeSantis — in some of his strongest comments to date on the topic — also defended his decision to sign a ban on abortions after six weeks of pregnancy even though it has been criticized by some Republicans as too strict. The comments set up a potential fault line for DeSantis when he officially jumps into the race for president, which could come as soon as next week. Trump, in an interview he gave to digital news startup The Messenger published on Monday, said “if you look at what DeSantis did, a lot of people don’t even know if he knew what he was doing. But he signed six weeks, and many people within the pro-life movement feel that that was too harsh.” https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/16/desantis-trump-florida-six-week-abortion-ban-00097154
3. Sodomy? Trump called himself the "“most pro-gay president in American history". De Santis is a Pro-Marriage Governor.
The contrast is stark. For real social conservatives, the choices couldn't possibly be clearer. Why should Ukraine or other innocent nations suffer just because liberals have made some strides in the Culture War? If you want to defeat liberals, elect Real Conservatives.
Some conservatives don't want to really change things in a conservative direction. Rather, they go for larger than life personalities, and then complain America is overridden by LGBTQ silliness, whereas someone like a Prez. De Santis would put a definitive end to it. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 19:10, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
:DeSantis has his own problems, but yes, Trump has become a pathetic [https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/3994596-desantis-says-trump-deploying-democrat-attacks-on-social-security-medicare/ Socialist Security–shilling], [https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/18/anti-abortion-leaders-trump-national-ban-00097675 baby-sacrificing], progressive far-left [[Comsymp]] (← we have an article on this topic now!) who should be read out of the party after the 1/6 French Revolution II mess he's responsible for creating. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>(Matthew 26:52)</sup>]]''''' Friday, 19:20, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
LT, yup. And very interesting article on Comsymp. I particularly liked this part: "An educated Marxist-Leninist such as Putin accepted that there had been more than 100 million victims of communism, an acceptable price to pay to remodel the world. He accepted the purges that Lenin and Stalin used to cement their rule, the forced famines that eliminated enemies of the state, the forced labor camps in Siberia, the tight control of all media. Putin studied the techniques of agitation and propaganda, applying them in his KGB assignment in Dresden in East Germany during the Cold War." Given the state of the world, the next US President will have to be a Conservative *Peace through Strength" Raeganite imo. That was the approach/strategy that won the Cold War after all and temporarily put a halt to the killing of those 100 MN Victims of Communism. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 19:27, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
[[File:LGBT NATO.jpg|right|300px|thumb|]]
:Unfortunately, I don't think we'll have a Reaganite presidency again. Thanks the Trumpism, the GOP abandoned conservatism for socialistic populism, essentially creating its own version of syncretized "right-wing socialism." And with the world ending, since biblical probation is coming to a quick close with prophecies in rapid fulfillment, the soon-to-come battle will not be "left vs. right," but God vs. Satan. The false "left" and "right" will syncretize into the universal beast system that has one mind. (Rev. 17:13) —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>(Matthew 26:52)</sup>]]''''' Friday, 19:32, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
::"soon-to-come battle will not be "left vs. right," but God vs. Satan."
::HAHAHAHA! When did the God v. Satan battle ever stop? See how propaganda has corrupted your mind? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 20:30, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
Well, the World's Population just crossed 8 BN. The Christian population is around 2.6 BN, roughly 1/3rd or 33%. There are an estimated 2 BN Souls who have not yet even heard the Gospel of Jesus Christ. See this from Joshua project: "The text on page 161 says "The disturbing truth is that there may still be nearly 2 billion individuals who have never had a chance to hear the Gospel." https://joshuaproject.net/resources/articles/has_everyone_heard
Why is that important? Well, because, Christ Himself said the End would not come until the Gospel was preached to all nations: "And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come." (Mat 24:14).
I would be careful of believing the end is surely just 5 or 10 years away and it's useless to work for a return to Christianity and morality, to Evangelize and do the Lord's Work etc. It's quite possible, given the time it would take for those 2 BN to hear and respond to the Gospel, that things continue for a few more decades until the Lord's Good Time. No man knows the day or hour after all. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 19:49, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
:Well, one of the first ways you can do the Lord's work is to stop believing and perpetuating lies. Get off the [[NATO]]/[[LGBT]] bandwagon. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 20:33, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
:[https://southfront.org/the-salvation-army-of-ukraine-hacked-state-websites-called-to-fight-zelensky/ Salvation Army hacks websites, calls to fight Zelensky]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 21:50, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
And I am doing the Lord's work, by fighting the Kremlin's lies and propaganda, and honoring the victims of decades of Communist and Soviet Terror, which number over a 100 Million as I posted, including about 10 MN Ukrainians killed in the Soviet Stalinist [[Holodomor]]. Both Catholic and Evangelical Christians, in the Cold War period, like Pope St. John Paul II and Prez. Raegan, regarded fighting Communism and Soviet Terror to be a Christian and Conservative moral duty. I am honoring that memory and legacy and continuing to do that.
Next, these great Christian leaders were also staunchly pro-life. Btw, Putin has had nearly 20 years of unlimited power in Russia, and has not banned abortion. Meanwhile, Roe v Wade has been overturned. Did your "Good Christian Putin" praise that as he should have? Nope. The antidote to liberalism, as I said above, is to elect strong pro-life Catholic and other Christian Conservatives who are Anti-Woke. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 06:34, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
:You're not going to convince me with you [[Biden]]esque arguments. Abortion is not banned in the United States, either. And Putin is not a dictator. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 14:13, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
:All the overturning of ''Roe v. Wade'' did was make the United States more like federal Russia, where abortion is dependent on local law, and ''is not'' the law of the land. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 14:15, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
::Me personally, I'm an oldtime Cold Warrior. I started in politics working on Nixon's 1968 campaign. Trust me, we did not defeat communism using lies.
:::*Overturning ''Roe v. Wade'' did not outlaw abortion (see, basically you are using commie leftwing talking points making that assertion);
:::*60 million of 100 million deaths were Chinese, and it has nothing to do with NATO's war against Russia. Since 1991 NATO & the United States have become totalitarian and Sovietized, whereas Russia has become more democratic. There has been a complete reversal of roles since the collapse of the Soviet Union. I know. I lived through it. I lived my whole life fighting communism and fascism, and I continue today fighting the fascists of the [[WEF]] and communists of the [[DNC]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 14:31, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
:::*You are not "fighting the Kremlin's lies and propaganda". You have never quoted any "Kremlin lies and propaganda". All you have ever posted is NATO propaganda telling you what "Kremlin lies and propaganda" are. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 14:42, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
:::::Case in point: Let's look at the use of the word "accepted" in that brilliant propaganda piece from the Heritage Foundation: "Putin accepted that there had been more than 100 million victims of communism". OK. Do you "accept" the fact the Nazis killed 6 million Jews or reject it? Do you "accept" the fact the Founding Fathers of the Constitution considered Blacks 3/5 of a person or reject it?
:::::My advice: ask God for the gift of spiritual discernment. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 14:49, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
==Jake Dreizen does a major update==
[https://thedreizinreport.com/2023/05/19/all-around-the-world/]. Dreizin is fluent in Russian and Ukrainian. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 02:18, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
==Prez. Zelensky's Easter Messages - 2022 and 2023 ==
In both his Easter Messages, 2022 and 2023, Prez. Zelensky concluded with "Christos Voskres" - the traditional Ukrainian way of saying "Christ is Risen", Truly He is Risen. Recall that Ukraine after all is a 90% Christian Country, mostly Orthodox Christian, contrary to what some western Putin-lovers and Ukraine-haters have been saying. His wife and his children are baptized Orthodox Christians. He is indeed from a Jewish background, but it may be, given the below, that he is a Jewish Christian, not a Jewish non-believer in Jesus Christ. Let's see: https://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/privitannya-prezidenta-ukrayini-z-velikodnem-82293
Some Excerpts: "Dear great people of the great country!
At the end of last winter, Russia brought a full-scale war to our land. And with it – death, pain, and darkness. On the morning of February 24, the sun never rose. Dawn never came. On the morning of February 24, a dark night began. And at the same time, our awakening began. Our struggle ...
Today, we celebrate the holiday of the Resurrection of the Lord. Its main symbol is victory: the victory of good, victory of truth, victory of life. We celebrate Easter with unshakable faith in the irreversibility of these victories.
On this day a year ago, we all prayed that Ukraine would endure. Today – for Ukraine to win ...
All those who killed, tortured, robbed will answer both in the international tribunal and to the Lord.
Heaven sees our faith and steadfastness. The world sees our courage and invincibility. The enemy sees our strength and determination. And therefore, Ukraine will see the light of victory.
Belief in it unites us all. Always, but especially today. On Easter, which has always been a family holiday for Ukrainians, a day of warmth, hope and great unity. The war could not erase us, our values, our traditions, our holidays, and the most important things they symbolize.
And therefore, no matter where we celebrate Easter, no matter where each of us is now, we celebrate Easter together ...
I will put on the shroud of Jesus Christ,
my skin is iron shell,
my blood is strong ore, my bone is a damask sword.
I am faster than an arrow, more alert than a falcon.
The armor is on me.
The Lord is in me.
For tomorrow.
For a peaceful dawn.
For the victory.
For Ukraine.
Christ is Risen! He is Risen Indeed!" Will post the 2022 message Prez. Zelensky referred to later on. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 05:53, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
:But I though he was Jewish? You mean Zelensky now believes in Christ? He needs to repent of his collusion with Nazis and persecution of the church.. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 11:01, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
:When that Satanic killer, Zelensky repeals the laws banning the singing of the Russian song, [https://youtu.be/BltM-SWGvFw?t=67 Christ is Risen, Son of God], and stops killing Russians because of their language and ethnicity, I'll believe a word of it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 11:51, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
:[https://orthochristian.com/148668.html UN RECOGNIZES PERSECUTION OF CANONICAL UKRAINIAN ORTHODOX CHURCH], October 11, 2022.
::''A new report from the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights concludes that some civil authorities of Ukraine harass and persecute the canonical Ukrainian Orthodox Church.''
:''New York Times: [https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/02/world/europe/zelensky-ukraine-orthodox-church.html Zelensky Proposes Barring Orthodox Church], Dec. 2, 2022.
::[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 12:04, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
{{quotebox-float|'''The Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights pointed to the oppression of the UOC by certain state structures'''<br>
MONDAY, 10.10.2022 15:42 NEWS REPRESENTATION OF THE UOC TO INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS
''The report of the UN OHCHR concluded that the attitude towards the Ukrainian Orthodox Church is unfavorable on the part of some state authorities of Ukraine.''
The UOC Office to European International Organizations draws attention to the report of the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights at the 51st session of the UN Human Rights Council, which ended on October 7, 2022 in Geneva, and to the comment on this report of the human rights organization with consultative status at the UN ECOSOC "Public Advocacy", reports the Information and Education Department of the UOC.
The OHCHR report includes conclusions concerning the Ukrainian Orthodox Church. In particular, the document states:
"124. During the reporting period, local authorities in at least seven territorial communities in Kyiv, Sumy and Lviv regions temporarily suspended the activities of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (often informally referred to as the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate) for the duration of martial law. Local authorities, such as the city council of the Brovary district of the Kyiv region, also banned meetings, rallies, marches and other mass events of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church for the duration of martial law without providing a clear justification for such a ban.
This suspension raises concerns about its compliance with international human rights standards. The authorities did not explain the grounds on which such measures were imposed or how they were deemed necessary and proportionate to protect public safety, order, health, morals or fundamental rights and freedoms of others, as required by Article 18(3) of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights. In addition, since the activities of other regional communities and organizations have not been suspended, such unfavorable treatment of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church may constitute a discriminatory measure on grounds of religion or belonging to a particular religious group."
It should be noted that this document was published based on the results of the OHCHR study on human rights in Ukraine in various fields and covers the period from February 01, 2022 to July 30, 2022. It was during this period that the official websites of the UOC published a statement by the Kyiv Metropolitanate of the UOC regarding decisions to ban the activities of religious communities of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, a statement by the Legal Department of the UOC regarding illegal decisions of local governments to ban the activities of religious communities of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church . Similar statements and messages were disseminated by church and secular media, which drew attention to violations of the rights of believers and religious organizations of the UOC by decisions of local self-government bodies to "suspend", "prohibit" or otherwise restrict activities.
The consideration of these statements by the UN structures indicates that manifestations of hatred, aggression and acts of discrimination against religious organizations of the UOC and its believers are the subject of monitoring at the international level and will continue to provoke a reaction from the international community.
Thus, local self-government bodies and other persons should take into account that the norms of international law prohibit any manifestations of hatred on religious grounds, and the existing monitoring missions of international organizations monitor such manifestations.
The UOC Office to European International Organizations once again emphasizes that the Ukrainian Orthodox Church is an independent religious denomination with a governing center in Kyiv, whose believers are citizens of Ukraine, acts within the framework of Ukrainian legislation and opposes hostility on religious or any other grounds.
Therefore, the decisions of local self-government bodies to restrict the rights of believers and religious organizations of the UOC, including attempts to "suspend", "prohibit", "restrict" or otherwise deprive the rights or create obstacles to the legal rights of UOC believers, are a violation of both national legislation and international law, and therefore such decisions have no legal force.
The UOC Representation to European International Organizations will continue to assist international organizations in obtaining reliable information about violations of the rights of UOC believers, especially in cases where UOC believers and religious organizations will not be able to receive adequate legal protection at the national level. [https://news.church.ua/2022/10/10/upravlinnya-verxovnogo-komisara-oon-iz-prav-lyudini-vkazalo-na-utiski-upc-z-boku-okremix-derzhavnix-struktur/#2023-05-20]}}
:[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 12:15, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
===Thumbnail sketch of Russian history===
[[File:Ukrainian nazi propaganda.jpg|right|400px|thumb|Official Maidan regime nazi propaganda posted to Twitter. It was later deleted.[https://web.archive.org/web/20220315202518/https://twitter.com/Uinp_gov_ua/status/1503439897025204224] ]]
Russian history is not that complicated. I'll attempt a brief thumbnail sketch.
Russian history begins in Kiev ([[Kievan Rus]]). With the Mongol invasion, the seat of the Orthodox Church was moved to [[Moscow]]. The Muscovites eventually threw off, or more appropriately, liberated themselves and all Russia by absorbing the Mongolian invaders. The Russians of Kiev however, or more distinctly the peoples of all Central and Western Europe, harbored racist attitudes toward Russians and Mongolians, considering "Muscovites" as half-breeds, "uncivilized', and "subhuman". So deeply ingrained into Western European civilization is this ethnic racist prejudice that medical textbooks used the diagnosis of "Mongoloid" until it was replaced with "[[Downs Syndrome]]" in the 1970s. [https://www.cambridge.org/core/blog/2020/11/23/how-did-down-syndrome-get-its-name/] (The round eyes of Downs Syndrome children, according to [[science]], made them appear "Mongolian", and their "uncivilized" behavior made them "retarded"; or vice versa: their "retarded" behavior made them "uncivilized" and confirmed the "Mongolian" diagnosis. Since the 1970s the term "Mongrel" is now only applied to dogs of mixed breed, shortened to "mutts". But this "scientific" thinking was widespread in Western Civilization for decades well after Hitler tried to purge the human race of the "subhumans" of Eastern Europe.)
Sorry to have to walk down this sad chapter of human history again, but [[NATO]] [[propaganda]] bringing it all back has forced it. And its why the Russians of Western Ukraine (who became detached from the main body of Russian civilization under the German and Austrian Empires), along with their Central and Western "Aryan" allies are so prone to Nazi ideology. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 12:53, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
So now we come to the case of Zelensky. The "Ukrainians", or more appropriately the Galicians of Western Ukraine, consider themselves "pure bred Slavs", as the German Nazis considered themselves pure bred Aryans. Of course Zelensky is hardly a pure bred Slav. Zelensky's native language is Russian, the language of a people more racially tolerant. He speaks the Ukrainian dialect with difficulty and an accent. Zelensky not only wants to outlaw the [[Russian Orthodox Church]], but his own native language, literature, music and culture, as well. Doesn't make sense? Don't expect it when dealing with Nazi ideology based on racist hate. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 13:36, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
Just passing through for now, will reply in more detail later. But since you've made this about racial hatred, you should know some (not all) racist Russians use a racial insult filled with hate toward Ukrainians called "khokol"; it's probably the equivalent of the filthy n word. Here is a source: "Systematical indoctrination of young kids in Russia. Hate is planted in their brain at an early age.
"A Kokhol is more stupid than a crow, but more cunning than a devil."
Khokhol is an ethnic slur used by Russians to make Ukrainians seem subhuman or stupid."
From: https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1644266068771307520 [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 17:21, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
:Yes, that's been around for centuries, like the "n" word (Ukies have their own pejoratives, too). It was the Soviet Union that invented hate crime laws, adopted in the US and Western Europe years later as the West has become more Sovietized. Soviet prosecution of Galician (or "Ukrainian") Nazi war criminals is why so many of their grandchildren harbor hatred of Russians today. OTOH, the Soviets also offered reconciliation and rehabilitation to the German people of [[East Germany]], without "coddling" Nazis as the US & UK did. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 17:41, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
::Why do the families and grandchildren of Ukrainian nazis harbor such hatred? Cause under the Soviet justice system, the families of traitors and war criminals could be punished, too, with limited job, educational, and housing opportunities, forcing them into extreme poverty.
::Again, do not confuse "Soviet" with "Russian". Unlike the German people, no Russian ever had the opportunity to vote in a democratic election for or against Soviet Communism. Yet modern NATO Nazi propaganda promotes this [[hate]], deliberately confusing "Russian" with "communist" or "Soviet". Vladimir Putin will be the first to tell you that, just as the Germans claimed to be Hitler's victims, so too are the Russian people Lenin, Stalin, and Soviet victims. Western propaganda is a deliberate and despicable distortion of history and revisionism - intended to promote hate.
::One billion+ Chinese are today ruled by the 86 million member [[CCP]] (with even some silent dissenters within their ranks). If the CCP lost power tomorrow, it would be sick and hateful to brand all Chinese as communist or adherents to the ideology, or to make that same claim 30 years from now. The injustice is akin to [[holocaust denial]], blaming the Russian and Chinese victims of communism - the people most affected by the crimes, as the perpetrators. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 18:09, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
::: Lol. See below.
::::What is so funny about blaming the victims of the crimes of communists? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 19:54, May 23, 2023 (EDT)
===See the racist remarks of Ukraine's first prime minister appointed by Washington===
[[Yulia Tymoshenko]] reacts after hearing of the [[Crimean Annexation]] as reported by ''WaPo''. Kazapi-Russians = Ukrainian ethnic slur for Kazakhs, Turks, Taters and Russians.
{{quotebox-float|"We have only one way to destroy Moscow. This is what we live for, we have come into this world to destroy [[Moscow]]. And not just the Muscovite in our country, but the whole black hole of European security, and delete them from the world map. Sh*t, we have to resort to arms, and the G*d d**n Kazapi-Russians together with their leader, kill. I will stir the whole world to action as soon as I can, in order that Russia, the s*n of a b**ch, no burnt field remains (scorched earth). You have to shoot them with [[nuclear weapon]]s."[https://www.kla.tv/22511][https://archive.vn/QX2Ks]}}