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==Jake Dreizen does a major update==
 
==Jake Dreizen does a major update==
 
[https://thedreizinreport.com/2023/05/19/all-around-the-world/].  Dreizin is fluent in Russian and Ukrainian. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 02:18, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
[https://thedreizinreport.com/2023/05/19/all-around-the-world/].  Dreizin is fluent in Russian and Ukrainian. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 02:18, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
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==Prez. Zelensky's Easter Messages - 2022 and 2023 ==
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In both his Easter Messages, 2022 and 2023, Prez. Zelensky concluded with "Christos Voskres" - the traditional Ukrainian way of saying "Christ is Risen", Truly He is Risen. Recall that Ukraine after all is a 90% Christian Country, mostly Orthodox Christian, contrary to what some western Putin-lovers and Ukraine-haters have been saying. His wife and his children are baptized Orthodox Christians. He is indeed from a Jewish background, but it may be, given the below, that he is a Jewish Christian, not a Jewish non-believer in Jesus Christ. Let's see: https://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/privitannya-prezidenta-ukrayini-z-velikodnem-82293
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Some Excerpts: "Dear great people of the great country!
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At the end of last winter, Russia brought a full-scale war to our land. And with it – death, pain, and darkness. On the morning of February 24, the sun never rose. Dawn never came. On the morning of February 24, a dark night began. And at the same time, our awakening began. Our struggle ...
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Today, we celebrate the holiday of the Resurrection of the Lord. Its main symbol is victory: the victory of good, victory of truth, victory of life. We celebrate Easter with unshakable faith in the irreversibility of these victories.
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On this day a year ago, we all prayed that Ukraine would endure. Today – for Ukraine to win ...
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All those who killed, tortured, robbed will answer both in the international tribunal and to the Lord.
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Heaven sees our faith and steadfastness. The world sees our courage and invincibility. The enemy sees our strength and determination. And therefore, Ukraine will see the light of victory.
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Belief in it unites us all. Always, but especially today. On Easter, which has always been a family holiday for Ukrainians, a day of warmth, hope and great unity. The war could not erase us, our values, our traditions, our holidays, and the most important things they symbolize.
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And therefore, no matter where we celebrate Easter, no matter where each of us is now, we celebrate Easter together ...
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I will put on the shroud of Jesus Christ,
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my skin is iron shell,
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my blood is strong ore, my bone is a damask sword.
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I am faster than an arrow, more alert than a falcon.
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The armor is on me.
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The Lord is in me.
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For tomorrow.
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For a peaceful dawn.
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For the victory.
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For Ukraine.
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Christ is Risen! He is Risen Indeed!" Will post the 2022 message Prez. Zelensky referred to later on. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 05:53, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
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:But I though he was Jewish? You mean Zelensky now believes in Christ? He needs to repent of his collusion with Nazis and persecution of the church.. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 11:01, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
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:When that Satanic killer, Zelensky repeals the laws banning the singing of the Russian song, [https://youtu.be/BltM-SWGvFw?t=67 Christ is Risen, Son of God], and stops killing Russians because of their language and ethnicity, I'll believe a word of it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 11:51, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
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:[https://orthochristian.com/148668.html UN RECOGNIZES PERSECUTION OF CANONICAL UKRAINIAN ORTHODOX CHURCH], October 11, 2022.
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::''A new report from the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights concludes that some civil authorities of Ukraine harass and persecute the canonical Ukrainian Orthodox Church.''
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:''New York Times: [https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/02/world/europe/zelensky-ukraine-orthodox-church.html Zelensky Proposes Barring Orthodox Church], Dec. 2, 2022.
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::[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 12:04, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
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{{quotebox-float|'''The Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights pointed to the oppression of the UOC by certain state structures'''<br>
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MONDAY, 10.10.2022 15:42  NEWS  REPRESENTATION OF THE UOC TO INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS
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''The report of the UN OHCHR concluded that the attitude towards the Ukrainian Orthodox Church is unfavorable on the part of some state authorities of Ukraine.''
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The UOC Office to European International Organizations draws attention to the report of the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights at the 51st session of the UN Human Rights Council, which ended on October 7, 2022 in Geneva, and to the comment on this report of the human rights organization with consultative status at the UN ECOSOC "Public Advocacy", reports the Information and Education Department of the UOC.
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The OHCHR report includes conclusions concerning the Ukrainian Orthodox Church. In particular, the document states:
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"124. During the reporting period, local authorities in at least seven territorial communities in Kyiv, Sumy and Lviv regions temporarily suspended the activities of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (often informally referred to as the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate) for the duration of martial law. Local authorities, such as the city council of the Brovary district of the Kyiv region, also banned meetings, rallies, marches and other mass events of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church for the duration of martial law without providing a clear justification for such a ban.
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This suspension raises concerns about its compliance with international human rights standards. The authorities did not explain the grounds on which such measures were imposed or how they were deemed necessary and proportionate to protect public safety, order, health, morals or fundamental rights and freedoms of others, as required by Article 18(3) of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights. In addition, since the activities of other regional communities and organizations have not been suspended, such unfavorable treatment of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church may constitute a discriminatory measure on grounds of religion or belonging to a particular religious group."
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It should be noted that this document was published based on the results of the OHCHR study on human rights in Ukraine in various fields and covers the period from February 01, 2022 to July 30, 2022. It was during this period that the official websites of the UOC published a statement by the Kyiv Metropolitanate of the UOC regarding decisions to ban the activities of religious communities of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, a statement by the Legal Department of the UOC regarding illegal decisions of local governments to ban the activities of religious communities of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church . Similar statements and messages were disseminated by church and secular media, which drew attention to violations of the rights of believers and religious organizations of the UOC by decisions of local self-government bodies to "suspend", "prohibit" or otherwise restrict activities.
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The consideration of these statements by the UN structures indicates that manifestations of hatred, aggression and acts of discrimination against religious organizations of the UOC and its believers are the subject of monitoring at the international level and will continue to provoke a reaction from the international community.
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Thus, local self-government bodies and other persons should take into account that the norms of international law prohibit any manifestations of hatred on religious grounds, and the existing monitoring missions of international organizations monitor such manifestations.
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The UOC Office to European International Organizations once again emphasizes that the Ukrainian Orthodox Church is an independent religious denomination with a governing center in Kyiv, whose believers are citizens of Ukraine, acts within the framework of Ukrainian legislation and opposes hostility on religious or any other grounds.
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Therefore, the decisions of local self-government bodies to restrict the rights of believers and religious organizations of the UOC, including attempts to "suspend", "prohibit", "restrict" or otherwise deprive the rights or create obstacles to the legal rights of UOC believers, are a violation of both national legislation and international law, and therefore such decisions have no legal force.
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The UOC Representation to European International Organizations will continue to assist international organizations in obtaining reliable information about violations of the rights of UOC believers, especially in cases where UOC believers and religious organizations will not be able to receive adequate legal protection at the national level. [https://news.church.ua/2022/10/10/upravlinnya-verxovnogo-komisara-oon-iz-prav-lyudini-vkazalo-na-utiski-upc-z-boku-okremix-derzhavnix-struktur/#2023-05-20]}}
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:[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 12:15, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
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===Thumbnail sketch of Russian history===
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[[File:Ukrainian nazi propaganda.jpg|right|400px|thumb|Official Maidan regime nazi propaganda posted to Twitter. It was later deleted.[https://web.archive.org/web/20220315202518/https://twitter.com/Uinp_gov_ua/status/1503439897025204224] ]]
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Russian history is not that complicated. I'll attempt a brief thumbnail sketch.
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Russian history begins in Kiev ([[Kievan Rus]]). With the Mongol invasion, the seat of the Orthodox Church was moved to [[Moscow]]. The Muscovites eventually threw off, or more appropriately, liberated themselves and all Russia by absorbing the Mongolian invaders. The Russians of Kiev however, or more distinctly the peoples of all Central and Western Europe, harbored racist attitudes toward Russians and Mongolians, considering "Muscovites" as half-breeds, "uncivilized', and "subhuman". So deeply ingrained into Western European civilization is this ethnic racist prejudice that medical textbooks used the diagnosis of "Mongoloid" until it was replaced with "[[Downs Syndrome]]" in the 1970s. [https://www.cambridge.org/core/blog/2020/11/23/how-did-down-syndrome-get-its-name/] (The round eyes of Downs Syndrome children, according to [[science]], made them appear "Mongolian", and their "uncivilized" behavior made them "retarded"; or vice versa: their "retarded" behavior made them "uncivilized" and confirmed the "Mongolian" diagnosis. Since the 1970s the term "Mongrel" is now only applied to dogs of mixed breed, shortened to "mutts". But this "scientific" thinking was widespread in Western Civilization for decades well after Hitler tried to purge the human race of the "subhumans" of Eastern Europe.)
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Sorry to have to walk down this sad chapter of human history again, but [[NATO]] [[propaganda]] bringing it all back has forced it. And its why the Russians of Western Ukraine (who became detached from the main body of Russian civilization under the German and Austrian Empires), along with their Central and Western "Aryan" allies are so prone to Nazi ideology. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 12:53, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
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So now we come to the case of Zelensky. The "Ukrainians", or more appropriately the Galicians of Western Ukraine, consider themselves "pure bred Slavs", as the German Nazis considered themselves pure bred Aryans. Of course Zelensky is hardly a pure bred Slav. Zelensky's native language is Russian, the language of a people more racially tolerant. He speaks the Ukrainian dialect with difficulty and an accent.  Zelensky not only wants to outlaw the [[Russian Orthodox Church]], but his own native language, literature, music and culture, as well. Doesn't make sense? Don't expect it when dealing with Nazi ideology based on racist hate. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 13:36, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
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Just passing through for now, will reply in more detail later. But since you've made this about racial hatred, you should know some (not all) racist Russians use a racial insult filled with hate toward Ukrainians called "khokol"; it's probably the equivalent of the filthy n word. Here is a source: "Systematical indoctrination of young kids in Russia. Hate is planted in their brain at an early age.
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"A Kokhol is more stupid than a crow, but more cunning than a devil."
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Khokhol is an ethnic slur used by Russians to make Ukrainians seem subhuman or stupid."
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From: https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1644266068771307520 [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 17:21, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
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:Yes, that's been around for centuries, like the "n" word (Ukies have their own pejoratives, too). It was the Soviet Union that invented hate crime laws, adopted in the US and Western Europe years later as the West has become more Sovietized. Soviet prosecution of Galician (or "Ukrainian") Nazi war criminals is why so many of their grandchildren harbor hatred of Russians today. OTOH, the Soviets also offered reconciliation and rehabilitation to the German people of [[East Germany]], without "coddling" Nazis as the US & UK did. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 17:41, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
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::Why do the families and grandchildren of Ukrainian nazis harbor such hatred? Cause under the Soviet justice system, the families of traitors and war criminals could be punished, too, with limited job, educational, and housing opportunities, forcing them into extreme poverty.
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::Again, do not confuse "Soviet" with "Russian". Unlike the German people, no Russian ever had the opportunity to vote in a democratic election for or against Soviet Communism. Yet modern NATO Nazi propaganda promotes this [[hate]], deliberately confusing "Russian" with "communist" or "Soviet". Vladimir Putin will be the first to tell you that, just as the Germans claimed to be Hitler's victims, so too are the Russian people Lenin, Stalin, and Soviet victims. Western propaganda is a deliberate and despicable distortion of history and revisionism - intended to promote hate.
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::One billion+ Chinese are today ruled by the 86 million member [[CCP]] (with even some silent dissenters within their ranks). If the CCP lost power tomorrow, it would be sick and hateful to brand all Chinese as communist or adherents to the ideology, or to make that same claim 30 years from now. The injustice is akin to [[holocaust denial]], blaming the Russian and Chinese victims of communism - the people most affected by the crimes, as the perpetrators. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 18:09, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
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::: Lol. See below.
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::::What is so funny about blaming the victims of the crimes of communists? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 19:54, May 23, 2023 (EDT)
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===See the racist remarks of Ukraine's first prime minister appointed by Washington===
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[[Yulia Tymoshenko]] reacts after hearing of the [[Crimean Annexation]] as reported by ''WaPo''. Kazapi-Russians = Ukrainian ethnic slur for Kazakhs, Turks, Taters and Russians.
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{{quotebox-float|"We have only one way to destroy Moscow. This is what we live for, we have come into this world to destroy [[Moscow]]. And not just the Muscovite in our country, but the whole black hole of European security, and delete them from the world map. Sh*t, we have to resort to arms, and the G*d d**n Kazapi-Russians together with their leader, kill. I will stir the whole world to action as soon as I can, in order that Russia, the s*n of a b**ch, no burnt field remains (scorched earth). You have to shoot them with [[nuclear weapon]]s."[https://www.kla.tv/22511][https://archive.vn/QX2Ks]}}
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===Putin: Diversity is our strength===
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He's pulling the rug out from under Biden and all the leftwing nitwit warmongers. [https://www.rt.com/russia/576587-putin-cultural-diversity-strength/] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 02:41, May 23, 2023 (EDT)
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See Patrick Lancaster [https://youtu.be/5BT5zYrWVxk?t=937 interview with a "Mongoloid" fluent in English] from Eurasia at the frontline. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 11:57, May 23, 2023 (EDT)
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===Collective guilt===
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Russia under Gorby & Yeltsin liberated itself from Communism. NATO and the West did not do it by force of arms. The notion today that 81% who approve of Putin want communism back is ludicrous. So these other terms get invented, 'authoritarian', 'autocracy' etc to slander the people of Russia who participate in democratic elections. We in America do not live in a democracy, where elections are rigged, stolen, ignored by the courts and media, and democratic activists are cancelled, slandered, harassed by law enforcement, and imprisoned. Our money is stolen from us by [[inflation]] and excessive public debt.  This is a totalitarian. authoritarian, autocratic, socialist or communist system or whatever label you wish to use. Since the late 1980s and early 1990s, the Russians have taken steps to reform themselves, whereas all the communist crap of the former Soviet Union moved westward, into the [[European Union]] and the [[United States]]. The [[demonization]] of whole social groups now is commonplace in the West.
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Russia is not a [[nation state]], akin to the multitude of ethnic, tribal, and linguistic states of Europe that evolved after the sons of [[Charlemagne]]. The [[Russian Federation]] is a [[civilization state]], where the multitude of over 200 ethnic, tribal, linguistic, and religious groups of Eurasia have learned to live together peaceably for centuries, and to rise up against foreign powers that seek to divide them. Truely Russia's strength is in its diversity - an idea stolen by American communists. Only all Russia's diverse ethnic cultures and religions agree on a few things, like marriage is between a man and a woman, the family unit is the basis of society, and homosexuality is shameful. These are not just Judeo-Christian concepts, they are common to the Islamic, Hindu, and Buddhist citizens of Russia, as well. And when Russia threw off its [[leftist]] and communist dominance in 1991, the re-emergence of spiritual values above the state reshaped modern Russia. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 15:25, May 23, 2023 (EDT)
 
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