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Category talk:United Kingdom Monarchs (view source)
Revision as of 23:42, June 12, 2007
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:I do not believe it is wrong to use a modern name for a state to describe previous periods in history of that state. The union of 1707 was imposed by the English, and the modern UK is a continuation of the kingdom of England. Other areas, like Wales, Scotland, and Ireland, were simply annexed by that state. [[User:Cornovius|Cornovius]] 19:06, 12 June 2007 (EDT)
:I do not believe it is wrong to use a modern name for a state to describe previous periods in history of that state. The union of 1707 was imposed by the English, and the modern UK is a continuation of the kingdom of England. Other areas, like Wales, Scotland, and Ireland, were simply annexed by that state. [[User:Cornovius|Cornovius]] 19:06, 12 June 2007 (EDT)
You are right in the "annexation" etc. but no other encyclopedia or reference book I have ever read lists the pre-Stuart monarchs as "UK". As I said (sort of)somewhere yesterday, would we list a colonial governor of 17th century Virginia as being a "United States Governor"?
Technically even 1707 is too early for the use of "UK" Great Britain was created then Ireland was added in 1801. But the Royal website lists the Stuarts as "UK" for (I suppose) tidiness reasons. And I don't know any Brit, be they English Scottish Welsh or whatever that refer to themselves as being of the UK. And the Celtic countries are a darnside more British than the English...in perception at least. I have guddled through over 20 books just now, including two encyclopedias, and none of them have UK as the generic term for the pre-modern rulers. [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] 19:42, 12 June 2007 (EDT)