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Category talk:United Kingdom Monarchs (view source)
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You are right in the "annexation" etc. but no other encyclopedia or reference book I have ever read lists the pre-Stuart monarchs as "UK". As I said (sort of)somewhere yesterday, would we list a colonial governor of 17th century Virginia as being a "United States Governor"?
You are right in the "annexation" etc. but no other encyclopedia or reference book I have ever read lists the pre-Stuart monarchs as "UK". As I said (sort of)somewhere yesterday, would we list a colonial governor of 17th century Virginia as being a "United States Governor"?
Technically even 1707 is too early for the use of "UK" Great Britain was created then Ireland was added in 1801. But the Royal website lists the Stuarts as "UK" for (I suppose) tidiness reasons. And I don't know any Brit, be they English Scottish Welsh or whatever that refer to themselves as being of the UK. And the Celtic countries are a darnside more British than the English...in perception at least. I have guddled through over 20 books just now, including two encyclopedias, and none of them have UK as the generic term for the pre-modern rulers. [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] 19:42, 12 June 2007 (EDT)
Technically even 1707 is too early for the use of "UK" Great Britain was created then Ireland was added in 1801. But the Royal website lists the Stuarts as "UK" for (I suppose) tidiness reasons. And I don't know any Brit, be they English Scottish Welsh or whatever that refer to themselves as being of the UK. And the Celtic countries are a darnside more British than the English...in perception at least. I have guddled through over 20 books just now, including two encyclopedias, and none of them have UK as the generic term for the pre-modern rulers. [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] 19:42, 12 June 2007 (EDT)
:I think to have separate categories for UK monarchs, English monarchs, etc. would just be confusing. Someone might be looking for, say, Henry VIII. Your point about listing colonial governors under US governors is correct of course, but I don't really see any problem in listing pre-1776 governors under that title, just for completeness. As with England and the UK, colonial and post-colonial Virginia, say, were not separate entities. One was simply a continuation of the other. [[User:Cornovius|Cornovius]] 07:08, 13 June 2007 (EDT)
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We will make a template, click-able, placed on each article, giving users access to whatever they want. This is a tremendous effort! Thanks for undertaking it! --[[User:TK|<small>Sysop-</small>TK]] <sub>[[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]]</sub> 06:27, 13 June 2007 (EDT)