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, 23:52, September 23, 2023Reverted edits by Conservative (talk) to last revision by RobSmith
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[[Conservapedia:User complaints/Archives]]
=User:Conservative=
===Bad faith editing===
*[https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia:User_complaints&action=history] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 15:45, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
:[[User:RobSmith/Draft/Essay: False citations and xenophobia in Conservapedia Essays]]
A frequent contributor does not do research. Rather, he/she/they meets up with a live person on the internet, typically a Conservapedia or Rationalwiki editor (but there have been rumors of others at other websites, as well), gets into a dispute, then spends hours, days, weeks, months, years, and even more than a decade, fly casting on Google for certain search terms he thinks will give a scholarly or authoritive refutation to whatever the dispute is, which in most cases begins with his total failure to understand the antagonists' point in the first place.
===The Catholic Church===
[[File:I stand by my post that the Catholic Church is a corrupt joke.PNG]]
[[Roman Catholic]] Pontiff [[Pope Francis I]] was added briefly to the Ukrainian Nazi kill list in late August 2023.[https://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1696910826953642153]
Speaking to the 10th All-Russian Catholic Youth Assembly in a video address in late August 2023, Pope Francis said
{{quotebox-float|“Never forget your heritage...You are the descendants of great Russia: the great Russia of saints, rulers, the great Russia of Peter I, Catherine II, that empire – educated, great culture and great humanity...Never give up on this heritage...You are descendants of the great Mother Russia, step forward with it...And thank you – thank you for your way of being, for your way of being Russian”.}}
Advisor to the [[fascist]] regime of Ukrainian dictator [[Volodymyr Zelensky]], [[Mykhailo Podoliak]] blasted the speech as "[[imperialist]] [[propaganda]]", [[CNN]] reported. [https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/29/europe/pope-francis-russia-ukraine-intl-hnk/index.html] Days later, Pope Francis was added to the official Ukrainian Ministry of the Interior's [[Myrotvorets]], or "Nazi kill list", [https://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1696910826953642153] a joint effort with [[NATO]] and the U.S. taxpayer funded [[CIA]]. [https://www.sott.net/article/480725-Independent-Ukrainian-kill-list-actually-run-by-Kiev-backed-by-Washington]
==Sloppy research==
Adds material from [[NeverTrump]]er and [[neocon]] [[Nazi]] war [[propagandist]] [[David Brooks]] to MPR.
[[File:Nazi war propaganda.PNG]]
===Peter Zeihan===
[[File:Olinger email on Zeihan.PNG|right|350px|thumb|]]
According to a December 5, 2005 email released by [[Wikileaks]] from Peter Olinger, Chief of Emergency and Anti-Terrorism Operations for [[Lockheed Martin]] Space Systems to Stratfor, [[Peter Zeihan]] is "anti-[[Conservative]]".<ref>https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/44/449967_fw-peter-zeihan-stratfor-writer-background-.html</ref> Olinger writes:
{{Cquote|what's so special about him to bump him up to the top tier of credited authorship? I scoured the everthing for a biography of Mr. Zeihan and came up pretty short. He's an "Energy Analyst" and supposedly a Russian and Central Asian affairs analyst, but never lived there...He sounds like one of the [[liberal]] press writers of today that write for so many publications on the market.}}
Zeihan has been referred to as a "huckster"<ref>https://michaelyon.com/featured-dispatches/pretender-alert-peter-zeihan/</ref> and "buffoon" whose "whole sthick is USA preeminence and how our 'advantages' will lead to our continued domination of the world. These advantages are [[Hispanic]] [[slave]] labor, ocean moats, and raw resources."<ref>https://sonar21.com/niger-coup-a-contrived-crisis-or-a-major-cia-goof-and-my-interview-on-a-russian-morning-show/#comment-146860</ref> He has been criticized for his "bad predictions with bad premises."<ref>https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2018/11/peter-zeihan-makes-bad-predictions-with-bad-premises.html</ref> Most of his speeches on [[YouTube]] are at upscale investor conferences and to sell books.<ref>https://attackthesystem.com/2021/05/20/the-limits-of-peter-zeihans-analysis/</ref> Zeihan has been predicting [[China]]’s meltdown since 2005. He repeats the call for China meltdown and possible breakup or breakdown multiple times. In 2010, he said it would happen within 3-5 years.<ref>https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2023/01/here-is-what-peter-zeihan-got-wrong-on-the-joe-rogan-show.html</ref>
===Karen Dawisha===
[https://deceptioninhighplaces.com/review-of-putins-kleptocracy-by-karen-dawisha/]
After stepping outside her traditional academic genre into the realm of [[biography]], Cambridge University Press refused to publish her book on [[Vladimir Putin]] citing the [[United Kingdom]]'s [[libel]] laws. [https://www.rferl.org/a/putin-book-shelved-mafia-ties/25321062.html] The book was picked up by Simon & Schuster and published exclusively in the [[United States]]. Critics panned the book for sloppy research. [https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2014/04/karen-dawisha-s-putin-book-blocked-by-british-libel-laws.html][https://www.economist.com/eastern-approaches/2014/04/03/a-book-too-far][https://deceptioninhighplaces.com/review-of-putins-kleptocracy-by-karen-dawisha/] Critics cite the main problem is the quality of the evidence which she describes as "the results of investigative journalism in the United States, Britain, Germany, Finland, France, and Italy, and all of this was backed by extensive interviews with Western officials who served in Moscow and St. Petersburg…and... the dump of nonredacted cables from [[Wikileaks]] is a very regrettable but also a completely fascinating source of information." [pp.11-12.] There is almost no discussion about the quality of the sources when many very serious claims about individuals are made. [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Karen_Dawisha&diff=1965836&oldid=1965825]
===John Mearsheimer===
[https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/why-john-mearsheimer-blames-the-us-for-the-crisis-in-ukraine]
*"'''We invented''' this story that Russia was bent on aggression in Eastern Europe - that Putin is interested in creating a greater Russia, or maybe even re-creating the Soviet Union."
*"We did not think he [Putin] was an aggressor before February 22, 2014. This is a story that '''we invented''' so that we could blame him [Putin]."
*"He [Putin] is correct about Ukraine, just like he [Putin] is correct about the United States or Germany. The much more important point is: he {Putin] understands that he [Putin] cannot conquer Ukraine and integrate it into a greater Russia or into a reincarnation of the former Soviet Union."
*"It’s very important to understand that '''we invented''' this story that Putin is highly aggressive and he’s principally responsible for this crisis in Ukraine. The argument that '''the foreign-policy establishment in the United States, and in the West more generally, has invented''' revolves around the claim that he [Putin] is interested in creating a greater Russia or a reincarnation of the former Soviet Union."
[Ed. note: Bolden added]
[Ed note: Mearsheimer is saying Putin ''is not'' the aggressor - Putin acted defensively and is not to blame. Anyone who claims, "I agree with Mearsheimer" and rejects this claim is either an idiot or a bald face liar. Furthermore, nowhere, in any context, does Mearsheimer even hint at Putin being a "corrupt kleptocrat"; anyone who associates being in agreement with Mearsheimer by name, saying, "I agree with Mearsheimer" while accusing Putin of being a "corrupt kleptocrat", is guilty of slandering Mearsheimer's good name, or at a minimum, perverting and twisting Mearsheimer's words and reputation to fit their own agenda, i.e. bad faith editing.]
Nowhere, going back years, does Prof. Mearsheimer ever infer that Vladimir Putin is a "corrupt kleptocrat", and has repeatedly stated, for years, that these are "invented stories" by [[the West]]. Yet the editor repeatedly point-blank states that he is in agreement with Prof. Mearsheimer that Putin is a corrupt kleptocrat.
===Ivan Katchanovski===
[[File:Chalupa-ciaramella.jpg|right|350px|thumb|[[Russiagate hoax]]er Alexandra Chalupa (left) and [[Trump impeachment]] whistleblower [[Eric Ciaramella]] (right).[https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/10/huge-cia-whistleblower-eric-cairamella-worked-with-dnc-operative-alexandra-chalupa-in-creation-of-trump-russia-collusion-hoax/] ]]
[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKMoq61IN02VsItd-uIZKtJKrPxA4z1Q8 Maidan Massacre in Ukraine], Ivan Katchanovski. YouTube.
{{quotebox-float|… “The effort, known as Digital Miadan, gained momentum following the initial Twitter storms. Leading the effort were: Lara Chelak, Andrea Chalupa, [[Alexandra Chalupa]], Constatin Kostenko and others.” The Digital Maidan was also how they raised money for the coup. This was how the Ukrainian emigres bought the bullets that were used on Euromaidan. Ukraine’s chubby nazi, [[Dima Yarosh]] stated openly he was taking money from the Ukrainian emigres during Euromaidan and [[Pravy Sektor]] still fundraises openly in [[North America]]. The “[[Heavenly Hundred|Sniper Massacre]]” on the Maidan in Ukraine by Dr. Ivan Katchanovski, University of Ottowa shows clearly detailed evidence how the massacre happened. It has Pravy Sektor confessions that show who created the “[[heavenly hundred]]. Their admitted involvement as leaders of Digital Maidan by both Chalupas is a clear violation of the Neutrality Act and has up to a 25 year prison sentence attached to it because it ended in a coup.}}
Prof. Katchanovski is virtually alone among North American academics researching the truth on US involvement in the [[Maidan coup massacre]]s, but yet the editor tries to make Katchanovski out as anti-Putin and sympathetic to Ukrainian Nazism. [https://www.conservapedia.com/User:Conservative/Did_June_2022_determine_the_future_of_global_politics_for_the_next_30_years%3F#Ukraine:_The_cleft_country_powderkeg]
Despite Prof. Katchanovski's meticulous documentation of Ukrainian Nazi crimes with foreign assistance, Prof. Katchanovski is used to infer that he opposes [[Operation Denazification]] and that he believes Vladimir Putin is a "corrupt kleptocrat".
===Samuel Huntington===
[https://msuweb.montclair.edu/~lebelp/1993SamuelPHuntingtonTheClashOfCivilizationsAndTheRemakingofWorldOrder.pdf]
Pg. 168: "The Russian-Ukrainian relationship is to eastern Europe, John Morrison has pointed out, what the Franco-German relationship is to western Europe. Just as the latter provides the core of the [[European Union]], the former is the core essential to unity in the [[Orthodox Church|Orthodox world]]."
Western Europe is [[secular]], Eastern Europe is Christian. While the evidence suggests the editor has not read Huntington nor is familiar with the basic arguments, he has spammed snippets throughout Conservapedia. The editor clearly comes down on the side of secularists and schismatics.
===Foreign Affairs magazine===
''Foreign Affairs'' magazine is the official rag of the [[globalist]] [[Council on Foreign Relations]]. [https://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_The_United_States_will_be_the_leading_power_in_the_world_for_the_foreseeable_future#The_myth_of_multipolarity:_American_power.E2.80.99s_staying_power._What_do_the_terms_unipolar.2C_bipolar_and_multipolar_mean_as_far_as_international_relations.3F]
===Ian Bremmer===
From [[Conservapedia]], [[Trump Derangement Syndrome]]:
:*"Political scientist Ian Bremmer shared a fake quote by President Trump on Twitter and briefly defended making it up after shown to be fabricated." [https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/05/27/trump-rips-time-magazines-ian-bremmer-for-attributing-fake-quote-to-him/]
Bremmer has ZERO credibility on any subject.
===Lowy Institute===
{{Verified}} '''Removed'''. The author evidently did no research on the Lowy Institute before using it as an authoritive source for an attack on Vladimir Putin. The institute is funded in part by the Australian government and the [[military industrial complex]]. [https://www.lowyinstitute.org/about/funding-support] Wikipedia has an entire Criticism section alleging its polls are "considered inadequate for formulating Australian policy" and that it ran "a disgraceful propaganda campaign" to advocate for Australian uranium sales. The title of the piece the editor uses is an obvious takeoff on [[Hannah Arendt]]'s ''Banality of Evil'', making both the editor and the Lowy Institute a [[holocaust trivializer]].
[https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Essay:_Vladimir_Putin_is_a_corrupt_kleptocrat_and_an_authoritarian&diff=next&oldid=1971544] Didn't take long; but why do I have to waste my time with this incessant [[trolling]]? The editor argues, [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Aschlafly&diff=prev&oldid=1970945 "There is a lot of data supporting what I wrote."] Yes, that "data" is what is known in common internet parlance as "spam" and "trolling".
===Axios===
[[File:Axios fake news tweet.PNG|right|300px|thumb|Axious is considered by some editors as valid and authoritive source for reporting on geopolitical matters. ''If you are faithful in little things, you will be faithful in large ones. But if you are dishonest in little things, you won’t be honest with greater responsibilities.'']]
[https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Essay:_The_United_States_will_be_the_leading_power_in_the_world_for_the_foreseeable_future&curid=173669&diff=1971597&oldid=1971105] - uses [[Anti-Trump]] [[fake news]] [[leftist]] rag ''Axios'' as a credible source to push more globalist propaganda.
{{clear}}
===John Maynard Keynes===
The editor had written into the first sentence in the [[John Maynard Keynes]] bio article, "incompetent pedophile", and in the test of the article Keynes morally [[corrupt]]ed life is why his economic theories were so popular and why they failed. In this discussion, he is touting the accomplishments of Keynes of keep the US GDP rate on an extended positive growth curve constantly raising the [[debt ceiling]] and inflating the [[money supply]] as a glorious accomplishment. He ends by inserting an ''[[ad hominem]]''.<ref>https://www.conservapedia.com/Talk:Essay:_The_United_States_will_be_the_leading_power_in_the_world_for_the_foreseeable_future#What_a_joke</ref>
[[File:Keynes Augyst 21 2023.PNG]]
===Alexander Solzhenitsyn===
[https://www.conservapedia.com/Community_Portal/Archive_8#Russophobia_again_-_for_the_umpteenth_time._Sad.21]
The editor has not read the works of [[Alexander Solzhenitsyn]], nor is he familiar with ''[[The Gulag Archipelago]]''. He made the assertion, "RobS, I still remember the various brutal torture methods used in Soviet gulags that Solzhenitsyn describes in his book The Gulag Archipelago. Deny that Russians having been torturing Ukrainians in the war in Ukraine and lose all credibility. Conservative (talk) 20:59, June 26, 2023 (EDT)"
When challenged, he could not name one single "torture method" used in Soviet gulags "that Solzhenitsyn describes". Any student who actually read the book would know "torture methods" were not used in the labor camps for the simple reason an injured prisoner could not work, which defeats the whole purpose of the labor camp. Yes, Solzhenitsyn describes reductions in the bread ration, being allowed to use the outhouse at a set time for a limited duration while supervised, and the strict prison regime around sleeping, working, eating, and using the outhouse as torture (one could add no correspondence, mailing, or visiting privileges, or the fact that wives and children had to go to court and get official divorce and disownment papers so as not to be charged as being a relative of an "enemy of the people" and find themselves in a gulag. The editors' claims are simply fraudulent).
Solzhenitsyn does go into detail in Vol. I about torture methods used by the early Bolsheviks in the 1920s while a prisoner was under interrogation ''before'' conviction and being sent to a labor camp, as well as hearsay testimonies by some prisoners that some of those methods still occurred on occasion while under interrogation before sentencing, but not in the camps for the reasons stated.
And the statement he made, "various brutal torture methods used in Soviet gulags that Solzhenitsyn describes in his book The Gulag Archipelago. Deny that Russians having been torturing Ukrainians in the war in Ukraine and lose all credibility.", is racist and xenophobic to the core - blaming the victims of the Soviet system - the Russian people - as having some sort of inborn, sadistic tendencies.
===declining economic fortunes===
[[File:Declining economic fortunes.PNG]]
===The ruble is not doing so well===
[[File:The ruble is not doing so well.PNG]]
===Tries to pass off a company involved in illegal domestic spying as an authority on macroeconomic theory===
[[File:Booz Allen.PNG]]
===Bellingcat.com===
Failing to qualify bellingcat.com as a government-funded propaganda source and not [[journalism]].
[[File:Failing to qualify bellingcat.com as governemnt-funded propaganda and not journalism.PNG]]
Afterward, he tried to hide his defense of American Nazi [[Kent Boneface McClellan]] by prematurely [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk%3AMain_Page%2FArchive_index%2F247&diff=1982649&oldid=1979288 Archiving an ongoing discussion.]
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==Dark Triad==
===Narcissistic personality disorder===
[https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User%3AConservative&diff=1975621&oldid=1975595] - pure [[narcissistic personality disorder|narcissistic]] justification for [[trolling]].
*[[Essay:_The_Conservapedia_atheism_article_is_currently_receiving_about_11,110_page_views_a_month._And_it_is_merely_one_of_the_1,900%2B_atheism_related_articles_at_Conservapedia.&direction=prev&oldid=1975865#You_tried_to_strike_me_down_UK_atheists.2C_but_as_a_God-fearing_child_of_the_Almighty_I_am_still_far_greater_than_your_all_godless_countrymen_whose_country_has_greatly_declined_since_WWII._I_laugh_at_your_pothole_filled_country_that_is_the_fountainhead_of_Darwinism._Britain_has_been_called_the_.22fat_man_of_Europe.22|You tried to strike me down UK atheists, but as a God-fearing child of the Almighty I am still far greater than your all godless countrymen]]
*Posting about himself on the website owner's talk page: [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Aschlafly&diff=prev&oldid=1977137"...You are, by far, the smartest, best educated, most knowledgeable, best informed person of all the regular contributors here."]
===Lacking empathy===
[[File:July 13 2023.PNG]]
Comment: He later admitted his lack of empathy chased away a good faith editor (I'll find the link eventually).
==Obsessive behavior and misuse of Essay space==
*[[Essay: BullyGate: RationalWiki Administrator and RationalWiki Media Foundation board member DuceMoosolini left RationalWiki due to the public shame of being bullied by the female, RationalWiki Moderator Techpriest]]
*[[Rational Media Board of Director and RationalWiki Moderater User: Spud and ultra-processed/unhealthy/junk food]]
*[[Essay:_The_Conservapedia_atheism_article_is_currently_receiving_about_11,110_page_views_a_month._And_it_is_merely_one_of_the_1,900%2B_atheism_related_articles_at_Conservapedia.&direction=prev&oldid=1975865#You_tried_to_strike_me_down_UK_atheists.2C_but_as_a_God-fearing_child_of_the_Almighty_I_am_still_far_greater_than_your_all_godless_countrymen_whose_country_has_greatly_declined_since_WWII._I_laugh_at_your_pothole_filled_country_that_is_the_fountainhead_of_Darwinism._Britain_has_been_called_the_.22fat_man_of_Europe.22|You tried to strike me down UK atheists, but as a God-fearing child of the Almighty I am still far greater than your all godless countrymen whose country has greatly declined since WWII. I laugh at your pothole filled country that is the fountainhead of Darwinism. Britain has been called the "fat man of Europe"]]
===91 hour non-stop troll-a-thon over 6 days===
*Non-stop troll session from [https://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/Conservative 09:51, 24 August 2023 to 15:44, 29 August 2023]
:*August 24 - 16 hrs
:*Augusr 25 - 21 hrs
:*August 26 - 18 hrs
:*August 27 - 12 hrs
:*August 28 - 16 hrs
:*August 29 - 8 hrs
::Comment: 91 hrs over 6 days creating garbage essays and articles with faulty citations to convince people he might know something about [[geopolitics]], or adding to his "[[Dark Triad personality traits]]" series to convince himself that me, RobSmith, is a [[psychopath]] he wants to "cut out of his life."
Ed. Note: This record could have begun prior to 09:51, 24 August 2023, but I don't have the time or patience. <!--He must be unemployed again; he's not going to find work by spending 15 hrs a day for a week trolling me on the internet.-->
==Bad faith editing==
{{See also|Conservapedia:Bad faith editing}}
===Russia and Ukraine===
[[File:I am not going to comment on the war in Ukraine further on the website or about Russia or Ukraine. Conservative, August 14, 2023.PNG]]
Less than 48 hours later:
[[File:We'll see how long this bs holds up.PNG]]
===Claims to be a realist divorced from morality===
Comment: Stepping in more doggie doo, probably with the other foot this time:
[[File:I am a realist.PNG]]
:[[File:Politics divorced from morality.PNG]]
===Maybe in 2030, I may do about 1-2 hours of editing related to politics/geopolitics===
[[File:16 21 Sept 20 2023.PNG]]
==Violations of Conservapedia:Civility Guidelines==
Conservapedia's longstanding Civility Guidelines regarding use of user pages states:
[[File:You cannot use them to bully, ridicule (make fun of) or attack (denigrate) Conservapedia or other users, and their opinions..PNG]]
The editors page contains no less than 47 direct, derogatory references to a fellow editor, including at least 4 placements of a Conservapedia' editors name in subheadings for the purposes of denigrating that editor. [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User%3AConservative&diff=1977198&oldid=1975158]
===Disruptions of civil discussions between editors with personal attacks===
[[File:Disruption of civil discussion between editors with personal attack August 25 2023.PNG]]
The other editor RobSmith was in discussion with ceased contributing to the discussion after this trolling attack. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 08:07, August 26, 2023 (EDT)
===Spam and trolling===
[[File:RobS August 25, 2023.PNG]]
[[File:Vindictive garbage.PNG]]
'''Comment:''' RobS said remove "some", a reference to ''some'' of the content, leaving to his discretion to Delete; is the response an admission the entire series of Essays are "vindictive garbage"?
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When called out for his trolling and narcissism, he tries to cover his tracks. [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Essay:_The_Conservapedia_atheism_article_is_currently_receiving_about_11,110_page_views_a_month._And_it_is_merely_one_of_the_1,900%2B_atheism_related_articles_at_Conservapedia.&diff=next&oldid=1975861]
[[File:I am still far greater than you.PNG]]
August 28, 2023, he still imagines himself a [[foreign policy]] expert:
[[File:Still imagines himself a foreign policy expert.PNG]]
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[[File:My user page doesn't have one iota of concern about you.PNG]]
20,000+ bytes of spam and trolling added to his user page between August 25 and August 29, including 43 direct references to "User:RobSmith". [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User%3AConservative&diff=1976799&oldid=1974754]
[[File:I don't negotiate with terrorists.PNG]]
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[[File:Trolling 9-8-23.PNG]]
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He basically doesn't know which end is up.
[[File:9-10-23.PNG]]
According to Bing [[AI]]:
:'The phrase "which end is up" can have different meanings depending on the context. Some possible interpretations are:
:*How to express confusion, ignorance, or lack of direction. The phrase can be used to describe someone who is naïve, dimwitted, or uninformed about a situation or a problem.
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[[File:China sewage eating.PNG]]
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User:Conserative considers other Conservapedia editors "enemies":
[[File:User Conservative views RobSmith as an enemy.PNG]]
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Results of a typical good faith attempt to have a civil discussion with the editor:
[[File:Continued discussion with you would be like talking to a brick wall Sept 16 2023.PNG]]
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[[File:Sorry I became exasperarated during our call.PNG]]
The testimony of two witnesses to establish a fact, himself and a corroborating witness.
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Tries to Archive his defense of [[Nazi]] hero [[Boneface]].
[[File:Defense of Boneface September 15 2023.PNG]]
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More guilty til proven innocent evidence on the subject his "gossiping" and not allowing the victim to make a defense.
[[File:Guilty til proven innocent.PNG]]
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Gossip.
[[File:You are gossiping right now.PNG]]
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===refs===
{{reflist}}