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Talk:Molotov-Ribbentrop pact (view source)
Revision as of 05:52, September 28, 2023
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==Here we go again==
==Here we go again==
[[File:360px-Lviv pogrom (June - July 1941).jpg|right|250px|thumb|Lvov pogrom, June-July 1941.]]
The problem with the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact is, Hitler's violation of the pact on June 22, 1941 with the invasion of the Soviet Union was a key cause to the charge of "Crimes Against Peace" at the Nuremberg Tribunal which adjudicated the Pact as authentic and legal. Fast forward. Can Russia now claim the [[Baltic States]] as breakaway separatists, much as Ukraine claims Lugansk, Donetsk, and Crimea as their territory? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Z+]]</sup> 14:35, June 15, 2022 (EDT)
The problem with the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact is, Hitler's violation of the pact on June 22, 1941 with the invasion of the Soviet Union was a key cause to the charge of "Crimes Against Peace" at the Nuremberg Tribunal which adjudicated the Pact as authentic and legal. Fast forward. Can Russia now claim the [[Baltic States]] as breakaway separatists, much as Ukraine claims Lugansk, Donetsk, and Crimea as their territory? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Z+]]</sup> 14:35, June 15, 2022 (EDT)
LT, research a little about the [[Matsuoka Pact]]. It's the Japanese version of the Molotov-Ribbentrop. (Note: WP doesn't even have an article on it.) [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 01:13, September 28, 2023 (EDT)
LT, research a little about the [[Matsuoka Pact]]. It's the Japanese version of the Molotov-Ribbentrop. (Note: WP doesn't even have an article on it.) [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 01:13, September 28, 2023 (EDT)
:Interesting. But doesn't Wikipedia technically have an article under the title "[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Japanese_Neutrality_Pact Soviet–Japanese Neutrality Pact]"? —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 01:24, September 28, 2023 (EDT)
:Interesting. But doesn't Wikipedia technically have an article under the title "[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Japanese_Neutrality_Pact Soviet–Japanese Neutrality Pact]"? —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 01:24, September 28, 2023 (EDT)
::My bad. That's it. They need a redirect.
(ex) Here's what happened: within hours after the pact was broken by Hitler, the picture at the right was on the streets of [[Lvov]]. The Soviets had kept the peace by locking up some 10,000 Ukrainian nazis in the gulag. As German forces advanced, the [[NKVD]] killed all the prisoners and withdrew. But they didn't get all the nazis, like the kid in the picture with the stick. These punks took out their revenge on the Poles, Jews, Russians, Romanians, Gypsies, Hungarians and none-Ukrainian, and not on the Soviet communism. This was the Nazi system. But as the German Nazis advanced, they local nazis were forced to become better organized.
Kind of looks like the streets of Chicago recently, or the [[2020 BLM riots]]. Just wait til they get better organized.
So today's [[Ukrainian nazi]]s are descendants of Ukrainian nazis from days of yore whose families were ostracized in the Soviet system and by Soviet society. See, the whole issue of outlawing capital punishment in modern times, (on a worldwide scale) began in Czarist times. Russia always needed workers in Siberia and the Far East, so capital punishment was outlawed (Russian culture deemed themselves "progressive", humane, and civilized even before Soviet times). The Soviets prided themselves by keeping it illegal; (they just resorted to terrorism of whole villages if they deemed it necessary to compel compliance in the early days). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 01:52, September 28, 2023 (EDT)