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::''"We have, in fact, today there is a war for a new addiction. Somehow it turned out that a little more than 30 years ago, having left dependence on the Soviet Union, on Russia, and so on, we fall into a new dependence - dependence on the United States and convince ourselves that "well, they are more civilized, they are more advanced, they are more technologically advanced, so it is not a sin to be dependent on such people."

::''"We have, in fact, today there is a war for a new addiction. Somehow it turned out that a little more than 30 years ago, having left dependence on the Soviet Union, on Russia, and so on, we fall into a new dependence - dependence on the United States and convince ourselves that "well, they are more civilized, they are more advanced, they are more technologically advanced, so it is not a sin to be dependent on such people."

::"This is what the leaders of the [[Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists]] were guided by at one time, who considered the independence of Ukraine in the late 30s and early 40s as a new dependence on [[Germany]] or on this new Europe, which Hitler then promoted. Well, in this situation, history does not teach anything," Bondarenko said.

::''"This is what the leaders of the [[Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists]] were guided by at one time, who considered the independence of Ukraine in the late 30s and early 40s as a new dependence on [[Germany]] or on this new Europe, which Hitler then promoted. Well, in this situation, history does not teach anything," Bondarenko said.

::The host of the channel, Vitaly Dikiy, asked if the current situation could be compared with that.

::''The host of the channel, Vitaly Dikiy, asked if the current situation could be compared with that.

::"And the fact is that any parallel is conditional. But I'm just getting to this: unfortunately, our elites do not consider Ukraine as a self-sufficient value. Even before the war, discussions between politicians for the same 30 years were held over who is better to attach Ukraine to, who is better to lease it to - east or west," the political scientist replied.

::''"And the fact is that any parallel is conditional. But I'm just getting to this: unfortunately, our elites do not consider Ukraine as a self-sufficient value. Even before the war, discussions between politicians for the same 30 years were held over who is better to attach Ukraine to, who is better to lease it to - east or west," the political scientist replied.

::: [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]} 02:37, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

::: [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]} 02:37, September 29, 2023 (EDT)