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Revision as of 22:45, September 30, 2023
, 22:45, September 30, 2023→Menendez indicted
:It could be that the Democrats realize it's not worth trying to save Menendez's skin, so throw him under the bus and suddenly denounce him so everyone else seems piously moral and conscientious. That's the impression I get. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 23:50, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
:It could be that the Democrats realize it's not worth trying to save Menendez's skin, so throw him under the bus and suddenly denounce him so everyone else seems piously moral and conscientious. That's the impression I get. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 23:50, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
::No big deal, as long as NJ has a Democrat governor. They'll appoint a young rising star who can sit there for 30 or 40 years. Them Dems will spin it as reform - they cleaned up corruption. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup>
::No big deal, as long as NJ has a Democrat governor. They'll appoint a young rising star who can sit there for 30 or 40 years. Them Dems will spin it as reform - they cleaned up corruption. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup>
==NATO war news==
===McCarthy wants continued Ukraine aid===
[https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4220034-mccarthy-backtracks-says-he-will-keep-ukraine-aid-in-pentagon-funding-bill/ McCarthy backtracks, says he will keep Ukraine aid in Pentagon funding bill] —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 20:23, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
:He doesn't have much of a choice. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 20:24, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
::What do you mean? He can at least try and strip that ridiculous Ukronazi funding. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 20:25, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
:::We're facing a government shutdown in 7 days. The GOP has been burned too many times with government shutdowqns.
::::It is better that Congress shuts down and one of the problematic branches of the United States federal government ceases destroying the country for about a duration. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 21:52, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
:::::It's too. late. Should have joined the Peace Movement earlier. Now you will pay the consequences for America's warmongering. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 22:17, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
::::::Oh, ''I'm'' going to pay? 😂 —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 22:21, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
:::He doesn't have much of a choice. We have too many [[nazisymp]]s in the Republican party, that have been in bed with the [[MSM]] and [[neocon]]s since February 2022. Nobody wants to take a moral stand against war and global fascism. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 20:24, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
::::Wow, I guess [[comsymp]] author Glen Yeadon was on to something this whole time with the "Republicans are Nazi supporters" narrative, eh? —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 21:39, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
:::::Have you been following the [[Jackson Hinkle]] saga? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 21:47, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
::::::No. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 21:52, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
:::::::He visited a [[Prigozhin]] memorial in Moscow, uploaded to X, and got suspended for a week on YouTube for it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 22:00, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
::::::::Oh, I see. While I disagree with YouTube's decision, I really could care less at the moment, individually and personally, because I already have a general concept of what the entire thesis/antithesis game will unfold towards. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 22:14, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
:::::::::It's not much different than the [[Russell Brand]] controversy right now. The government is telling [[Big Tech]] platforms who to shut down and shut up. And you'll only be spoon-fed government [[propaganda]] by the [[MSM]]. You'll end up thinking and sounding like User:Consevative. 22:21, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
:::::::::User:Conservative already got Conservapedia on the [[DHS]] hit list, remember? Maybe they can use him as an anti-Putin propagandist after they do to him what they did to [[Boneface]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 22:24, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
::::::::::[EC] I already told you ''over and over'': it's a thesis/antithesis deception game. The Antichrist system will be a far-right theocracy; how does it get its sheer power? It needs the support of civil secular governments, and therefore first people need to elect theocrats into power. Right now, the "right-wing" populists are in cahoots with fringe left-wing populists against Ukraine, and so when that coalition gains control of the U.S. government, represented in Congress and the White House, the "right-wing" element could thus seize control and institute the beginning of an International Sunday Law. But in order for that to happen, the antiwar coalition needs enough political traction. Hence, any government/establishment move to silence them will only help them in the long-run for the syncretic coalition to gain public sympathy and support. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 22:26, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
:::Then [https://www.conservapedia.com/User:Conservative%27s_essays#Geopolitics look at User:Conservative's Essays.] They're all "Rah! Rah! Let's pile on trillions more to the [[national debt]] to defeat the evil Putin and Russia! Rah! Rah!" No GOP congressman is going to go against popular sentiment. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 20:41, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
::::Hold on, I thought Conservative is opposed to Ukraine aid. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 21:39, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
:::::Read his Essays. He gives [[Speaker McCarthy]] every justification to continue aid to defeat the "corrupt kleptocrat Putin." [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 21:46, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
::::::I'm not going to lie, it's hard to follow up on his essays and pay attention, just as much as it is to read your articles as well. I will still take a look nonetheless, though it is simply that certain writing styles aren't as fun for me to read. (not saying either of you two's writing styles are bad, just that it's not easy for me individually to comfortably read through). I thus can evaluate whether your claims of his essays are correct. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 21:52, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
::::::Okay, I briefly scanned through [[Essay:_The_United_States_will_be_the_leading_power_in_the_world_for_the_foreseeable_future#United_States|this essay]], and the linked subsection has one tiny mention of "aid." And it is not indicative that Conservative openly supports increased U.S. aid to Ukraine. Also, his essay about Putin as a corrupt kleptocrat does not appear to substantiate your argument either.
::::::I hope this clarifies matters. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 21:55, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
:::::::Read his anti-Putin and Russian xenophobia articles. Oh, and thank him for all the [[inflation]] in coming years cause McCarthy can't do anything to control Pentagon spending. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 22:00, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
::::::::He's not a xenophobe, nor is he responsible for inflation; his single potential vote has little impact on federal political decisions, nor will the potential votes influenced by his essays. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 22:05, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
:::::::::He gave McCarthy and the GOP every excuse to vote for massive defense spending that will have an inflationary effect. Even moreso with de-dollarization. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 22:11, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
::::::::::McCarthy before resolving his dilemma on whether to support continued Ukraine funding: "whew, this User:Conservative guy has some brilliant essays that will 100% influence by decision, and so because of his revelations I'm going to betray MTG after all!" ''Do you actually believe that?'' —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 22:16, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
:::::::::::::Kevin McCarthy keeps trying to call me about whether the USA should fund the war in Ukraine, but I blocked his number! By the way, '''I plainly say I am against the U.S. funding of the war in Ukraine''' (See: [[Essay: How long will the war in Ukraine last and what will its likely outcomes will be? A prediction on its outcomes]]). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:26, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
::::::::::::::Alright, it's now established, clear as daylight, that RobSmith's quote-mining concluded upon a false statement. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 23:37, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
:::::::::::::::Yah, like John Kerry, 'I was for it before I was against it' (and the doo-doo hit the fan). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 00:32, September 24, 2023 (EDT)
:::::::::::Mark my words: As Republican Congressmen face re-election, they will be quoting the same sources User:Conservative uses in his xenophobic screeds to justify their warmongering. 22:27, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
::::::::::::That perhaps could be the case. Conservative isn't completely off the mark though; facts in of themselves are just facts, and not inherently good or evil. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 22:29, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
:::::::::::::There's no "facts" in there. It's all [[neocon]] [[think tank]] bs. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 22:47, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
::::::::::::::It seems to me that Conservative is more Mearsheimerian than you are. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 23:07, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
:::::::::::::::He's nothing. He couldn't find his butt with two hands in a [[geopolitical]] discussion. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 23:24, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
::::::::::::::::User:Geoplitician I will admit I grossly misunderstood and underestimated, that's how bad Ratvandals corrupted all out minds and made us suspicious of everyone. Geo understood factually the field of geopolitics was regarded almost as an occult science during [[World War II]]. We even discussed this, and that made me realize he wasn't just playing. User:Conservative is one of a dime-a-dozen trolls who turn the field, which has struggled for recognition, back into an occult or pseudoscience. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 23:33, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
:::::::::::::::::Yep, he's a genius on this stuff and lives up to his username. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 23:34, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
::::::::::::::::::The field is too large for any one person to claim mastery of. The best you can hope for is not to offend anyone. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 00:46, September 24, 2023 (EDT)
:::*[https://consortiumnews.com/2023/09/23/get-ready-for-a-ukraine-war-into-the-2030s/ Get Ready for ‘Ukraine War into the 2030s’]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 21:29, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
DeSantis addresses the Ukraine War in his Glenn Beck Interview that I posted. A very prudent and thoughtful response from the saintly Governor. I'd recommend watching it, he mentions bringing the war to an end quickly is in America's National Interest. Link is above. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 21:38, September 23, 2023 (EDT)