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*1. Made us (and angels) with no ability to make choices, and operating as programmed without deviation, without having any ability to respond to and choose between good or evil, therefore not effecting any negative consequences due to moral choices. [robotic, impotent]
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*1.Made us (and angels) with no moral standard or sense or deprived us of the moral ability to respond to or choose good [morally insensible, even as with clouds].
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*2. Granted us the ability to make choices, but never have given us anything to choose between [no moral standard, no meaningful moral agency].  
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*2.   Granted us free moral agency, but never have given us anything to choose between [negation of moral choices, and no devil or God to chose between].
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*3. Left man only with recourse to finite competing sources as his ultimate moral authority, and object of spiritual affection and allegiance, and source of security [atheism and atheistic governments].
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*3. Left man only with recourse to finite competing sources as his god, as being the sure and stedfast ultimate law-giver, and the ultimate object of spiritual affection and allegiance and source of security, and supreme judge of what is good [cultic theistic and atheistic governments].
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*4. Called man to make the Creator their ultimate object of spiritual affection and allegiance and source of security as being what is right and what is best for man, versus finite created beings or things being one's "god," and provided moral revelation and influences. Yet always have moved us to do good, and never have allowed us to choose evil (even if as by making believing in God and choosing good so utterly compelling — like God appearing daily and always doing miracles on demand, and preventing any seeming evidence to the contrary - so that no man could attempt to make excuses for not believing in Him [effective negation of any freedom to choose]).
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*4. Called man to make the Creator their god,  but rather than His reality being effectually believed due to a seeking heart in the light of substantial evidence and thus appreciated,  a seeking made His reality so manifest as to leave no other choice, by compelling obedience thru overt  positive irrefutable supernatural  acts, such as by God supernaturally appearing and communicating to everyone [effective negation of volitional choose] ''(akin o what the angels of God experience, yet 1/3 choose to rebel anyway. Likewise, did most of the Hebrews who through Moses saw irrefutable supernatural evidences, effectually acting like as unbelievers.''
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*5. Allowed created beings a negative alternative to faithfulness to the  creator, and the ability  to choose evil, but immediately reversed any effects and not penalized such [negation of consequences of choices].  
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*5. Akin to #4m provided the ability to choose, and alternatives to choose btwn, but immediately punished unbelief and disobedience, relative to the degree of offence, thus being a perpetual classic concentration camp world.
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*6. Allowed us to do bad, but restricted us to a place where it would harm no one but ourselves [isolated consequences to choices].
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*6. Allowed created beings a negative alternative to faithfulness to the creator, and the ability to choose evil, but immediately reversed any negative effects of man’s disobedience  and not penalized such [effective negation of consequences of choices].
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*7. Allowed us to choose between good and evil - thereby revealing what they want -  and to affect others by it, but not ultimately reward or punish us accordingly [negation of judicial and eternal consequences, positive or negative].
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*7. Allowed us to do bad, but restricted us to a place where it would harm no one but ourselves [isolated negation of judicial and eternal consequences of choices].
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*8. Given us the ability to choose, and alternatives to chose between and to face and overcome evil or be overcome by it, with the ability to affect others and things by our choices, and to exercise some reward or punishment in this life for morality, and ultimately reward or punish all accordingly [pure justice].
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*8. Allowed the whole world to become one giant North Korea, or let man terminally  destroy himself by misusing his God-given ability to make choices, to break the good laws God gave them for their own good, misusing and abusing the good things God gave man, thereby greatly corrupting the earth. [Unhindered freedom, negation of mercy]
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*9. Restrained evil to some degree, while making the evil that man does to work out for what is Good, with justice yet with mercy, and grace, towards those who want good, and who thus the One who is supremely Good.
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*9. Allowed us to choose between good and evil, and to affect others by it, but not ultimately reward or punish sin accordingly [negation of judicial and eternal consequences, positive or negative].
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*10. In accordance with 8, the Creator could have chosen to manifest Himself in the flesh, and by Him to provide man a means of escaping the ultimate retribution of Divine justice, and instead receive unmerited eternal favor, at God's own expense and credit, appropriated by a repentant obedient faith, in addition to the loss or gaining of certain rewards based on one's quality of work as a child of God.   And eternally punish, to varying degrees relative to iniquity and accountability, those whose response to God's revelation manifested they want evil,  [justice maintained while mercy and grace given].
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*10. Given us the ability to choose, and alternatives to chose between, and to face and overcome evil or be overcome by it, with the ability to effect others and things by our choices, and to exercise some reward or punishment in this life for morality, and ultimately reward or punishment all accordingly [pure justice].
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*11.  Instead of just letting all mankind go his merry miserable way to Hell,  provided for the salvation of sinners at His own expense, sparing not His own dear Son who died and rose for them as mankind's scapegoat and savior (thank God). While restraining  evil to some degree, yet making the evil that man does to work out for what is ultimately Good, with justice toward those who reject the Light (the Christ), having sinned away their day of grace,
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yet with mercy, and grace towards those who want what is Good above all else,  seeking and choosing the One who is supremely Good,
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*11. In accordance with 11 the Creator could have and did choose to manifest Himself in the flesh, and by Him to provide man a means of escaping the ultimate retribution of Divine justice, and instead receive unmerited eternal favor, at God's own expense and credit, appropriated by a repentant obedient faith in the risen Lord Jesus, in addition to the loss or gaining of certain rewards based on one's quality of work as a child of God. And eternally punish, to varying degrees relative to iniquity and accountability, those whose response to God's revelation manifested they want evil (John 3:16-18; 1 Co. 3; Rev. 20) [justice maintained while mercy and grace given].
    
==Arminian response==  
 
==Arminian response==  
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