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#::::I'm afraid you lost me. If Germany & Russia were such authoritarian communist allies, what were they fighting over for years that tens of millions were caught up in and killed? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]} 17:45, October 11, 2023 (EDT)

#::::I'm afraid you lost me. If Germany & Russia were such authoritarian communist allies, what were they fighting over for years that tens of millions were caught up in and killed? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]} 17:45, October 11, 2023 (EDT)

#'''Agree'''.  Continually lying; blatantly hostile towards others.  Acts like he owns this website. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 08:10, October 11, 2023 (EDT)

#'''Agree'''.  Continually lying; blatantly hostile towards others.  Acts like he owns this website. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 08:10, October 11, 2023 (EDT)

::"Toxic leaders work to promote themselves at the expense of their subordinates...". - Lieutenant Colonel Darrell W. Aubrey, United States Army, [https://www.moore.army.mil/MCOE/EO/content/pdf/RL/The%20Effect%20of%20Toxic%20Leadership.pdf The Effect of Toxic Leadership]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 09:05, October 11, 2023 (EDT)

#:"Toxic leaders work to promote themselves at the expense of their subordinates...". - Lieutenant Colonel Darrell W. Aubrey, United States Army, [https://www.moore.army.mil/MCOE/EO/content/pdf/RL/The%20Effect%20of%20Toxic%20Leadership.pdf The Effect of Toxic Leadership]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 09:05, October 11, 2023 (EDT)

:::Some of the most active people in Conservapedia's user complaints section in recent history need introductory knowledge of interpersonal relations such as these: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w97dR3OJB1k&list=PLWo-PXvaXLADKaXY8q73c84UKQzr7YMjn&index=1 Interpersonal relations] and ''How to Win Friends and Influence People'' by Dale Carnegie. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 10:38, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

#::Some of the most active people in Conservapedia's user complaints section in recent history need introductory knowledge of interpersonal relations such as these: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w97dR3OJB1k&list=PLWo-PXvaXLADKaXY8q73c84UKQzr7YMjn&index=1 Interpersonal relations] and ''How to Win Friends and Influence People'' by Dale Carnegie. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 10:38, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

::::Over the last year or so, RobSmith has been the most active person in the Conservapedia User complaints. It's good that there is starting to be a growing realization that the complaints need to be directed towards him. He is one of Conservapedia's biggest problems right now and so is Conservapedia's technical problems. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:38, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

#:::Over the last year or so, RobSmith has been the most active person in the Conservapedia User complaints. It's good that there is starting to be a growing realization that the complaints need to be directed towards him. He is one of Conservapedia's biggest problems right now and so is Conservapedia's technical problems. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:38, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

:::::Oh, so you advocate for making Conservapedia a hot bed of Holocaust revisionism, too. Huh? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]} 11:52, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

#::::Oh, so you advocate for making Conservapedia a hot bed of Holocaust revisionism, too. Huh? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]} 11:52, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

I put my above two posts in the wrong section initially. So I moved them to the right section. I already commented on the Holocaust issue below. I said I did not like LT's lead version. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:46, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

#:I put my above two posts in the wrong section initially. So I moved them to the right section. I already commented on the Holocaust issue below. I said I did not like LT's lead version. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:46, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

:That was commendable. But you never know when to leave well enough alone. Always stirring up caca with a stick. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]} 12:49, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

#::That was commendable. But you never know when to leave well enough alone. Always stirring up caca with a stick. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]} 12:49, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

::Actually, I could have chosen to promote User: MayGodBless' motion of no confidence vote concerning your adminship so it would have about 10 votes. Nevertheless, I did vote in favor of it. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:57, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

#:::Actually, I could have chosen to promote User: MayGodBless' motion of no confidence vote concerning your adminship so it would have about 10 votes. Nevertheless, I did vote in favor of it. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:57, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

:::I'm afraid, once again, you've demonstrated that you can't see the forest from the trees. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]} 12:59, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

#::::I'm afraid, once again, you've demonstrated that you can't see the forest from the trees. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]} 12:59, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

:::You are the one who put User:LT up to his [[Holocaust revisionism]]:

#:::::You are the one who put User:LT up to his [[Holocaust revisionism]]:

::::[[Conservapedia:Community_Portal#Somebody_made_a_great_point_about_Communism_being_deadlier_than_Nazism.]] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]} 13:02, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

#:::[[Conservapedia:Community_Portal#Somebody_made_a_great_point_about_Communism_being_deadlier_than_Nazism.]] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]} 13:02, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

:::::There is not a single vote indicating that people have confidence in your adminship. It is you who does not see the forest or the individual trees.  

#::::There is not a single vote indicating that people have confidence in your adminship. It is you who does not see the forest or the individual trees.  

 

#::::NischantXavier said that historically communism has been numerically deadlier than Nazism. I agree with this because it is true. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:06, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

:::::NischantXavier said that historically communism has been numerically deadlier than Nazism. I agree with this because it is true. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:06, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

#:::::This isn't the place to debate that. Nonetheless, it appears User:LT was encouraged by your posting. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]} 13:09, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

 

#:Keep grasping your at your straws. Speaking of grasping at straws, I find your April 2020 fixation very humorous. Setting people who had personal/family birthdays, anniversaries and other non war in Ukraine events aside, I bet I could approach 5,000 people and not a single one of them could tell me what they were doing on April 9, 2020. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:16, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

::::::This isn't the place to debate that. Nonetheless, it appears User:LT was encouraged by your posting. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]} 13:09, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

#::I never said living with the prospect of [[nuclear war]] minute to minute was a cause to celebrate.  

Keep grasping your at your straws. Speaking of grasping at straws, I find your April 2020 fixation very humorous. Setting people who had personal/family birthdays, anniversaries and other non war in Ukraine events aside, I bet I could approach 5,000 people and not a single one of them could tell me what they were doing on April 9, 2020. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:16, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

#::Just put the ladle down, you've stirred up enough caca. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]} 13:25, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

:I never said living with the prospect of [[nuclear war]] minute to minute was a cause to celebrate.  

#:::::I'm looking forward to your next piece: [[Essay:Israeli war crimes in Gaza]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]} 13:14, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

 

#:In 2022, more than half of Americans (55%) had favorable views of Israel.[https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2022/07/11/american-views-of-israel/]  I bet it's even higher now.  In February of 2023, less than 10% of Americans have a favorable view of Putin".[https://www.murphy.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/murphy-the-republicans-lifting-up-putin-are-the-same-ones-trying-to-destroy-democracy]

:Just put the ladle down, you've stirred up enough caca. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]} 13:25, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

#::But feel free to get on your hamster wheel of Russian cheerleading. But you don't seem to be making much progress at Conservapedia judging by your recent AfD vote. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:42, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

 

#::bla bla bla you got your own [[Nazi apologetics]] to worry about. Just put the ladle down and stop digging. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]} 13:47, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

::::::I'm looking forward to your next piece: [[Essay:Israeli war crimes in Gaza]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]} 13:14, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

#::"Negative sentiment toward Russia and Putin has increased by double digits in nearly every middle-income country since 2019. For instance, 74% now express a negative view of Putin in Argentina, up from 51% four years ago." - Pew Research.[https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2023/07/10/large-shares-see-russia-and-putin-in-negative-light-while-views-of-zelensky-more-mixed/] Et tu, middle-income countries? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:50, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

In 2022, more than half of Americans (55%) had favorable views of Israel.[https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2022/07/11/american-views-of-israel/]  I bet it's even higher now.  In February of 2023, less than 10% of Americans have a favorable view of Putin".[https://www.murphy.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/murphy-the-republicans-lifting-up-putin-are-the-same-ones-trying-to-destroy-democracy]

#::If all the kids jumped in the lake, would you, too? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]} 14:04, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

 

#:::Modern Russian propaganda is of a better quality than Soviet propaganda, but I still find it humorous that some Westerners have bought into Russian propaganda hook line and sinker.  Perhaps some of them will change their mind in 2030 or 2035 when the fruit of some of Putin's recent follies come more into fruition. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:13, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

But feel free to get on your hamster wheel of Russian cheerleading. But you don't seem to be making much progress at Conservapedia judging by your recent AfD vote. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:42, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

#::::[https://youtu.be/93dfI98P8iA Voenkom]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]} 14:23, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

 

#'''Agree:'''  I'm going to weigh in here with [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]], [[User:Conservative|Conservative]], [[User:LT|LT]], [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]], [[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] and [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] and agree, particularly with all of MayGodBless's original points above (particularly the first one - especially in Rob's accusations against other posters, and even fellow admins, of what he is guilty of doing and saying himself [i.e. trolling/incivility, etc.], his playing the "victim" when called out, and his inherent need to snark against his critics not just on Andy's talk page, but on ''any other talk page'' as he sees fit, and even to hide critical comments against him through his abuse of warning collapse templates to keep those comments from being seen), and add in more reasons why Rob not only needs to be de-sysoped (again - and this time, ''permanently''), but to have his blocking privileges removed to prevent the abuse thereof by him for spite against his critics:

:bla bla bla you got your own [[Nazi apologetics]] to worry about. Just put the ladle down and stop digging. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]} 13:47, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

#:*He unjustly and spitefully blocks anyone who stands up to him for his abuses of power and his behavior here (particularly to me, '''14 times as of this post''', just to try to make an example of me) and his critics' criticism thereof, which only further proves the first of the points noted above;

::"Negative sentiment toward Russia and Putin has increased by double digits in nearly every middle-income country since 2019. For instance, 74% now express a negative view of Putin in Argentina, up from 51% four years ago." - Pew Research.[https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2023/07/10/large-shares-see-russia-and-putin-in-negative-light-while-views-of-zelensky-more-mixed/] Et tu, middle-income countries? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:50, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

#:*In the fourth point (his unnecessary protection of pages), he reverts reversions of edits made by liberal editors that inserted LPOV edits, then protected the pages to protect the favored LPOV edits and keep them from being re-reverted;

:::If all the kids jumped in the lake, would you, too? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]} 14:04, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

#:*He openly and snarkily defies fellow admins like Conservative and Karajou and, as the first point notes, he thinks the rules don't apply to him, he thinks he can do whatever he pleases and he thinks he is "protected" against/immune to criticism and sanctioning against him for his words/actions, to the point of even defying Andy himself when he sees fit; basically put, this is January/February 2021 all over again, when Rob began coming unhinged over the outcome of the 2020 election and the January 6 protests and started acting like a supporter of the Biden regime in response and started acting out against the critics of his behavior until Andy put a stop to it by de-sysoping him and revoking his other privileges (including blocking, for the reason I noted above);

::::Modern Russian propaganda is of a better quality than Soviet propaganda, but I still find it humorous that some Westerners have bought into Russian propaganda hook line and sinker.  Perhaps some of them will change their mind in 2030 or 2035 when the fruit of some of Putin's recent follies come more into fruition. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:13, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

#:*He even claims that "site viewership has gone down" since Karajou's return and posted "evidence" claiming such - but I call shenanigans on that, as such claims (as posted in [[Conservapedia:User complaints#Hope you're proud of yourself now|the section above]]) can easily be faked with Photoshop

:::::[https://youtu.be/93dfI98P8iA Voenkom]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]} 14:23, October 12, 2023 (EDT)

#:Long story short, Rob is the direct reason I have had to curtail my activity on this site for the past two-plus years since his reinstatement of admin privileges and subsequent abuse thereof as he sees fit ([https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Aschlafly&diff=prev&oldid=1991681 which Karajou was right on the mark about]).  So, in this event, the right thing to do here is for Rob to be dealt with as is needed and to see to it that he can never again abuse his power with impunity.  [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 07:50, October 26, 2023 (EDT)

'''7.''' '''Agree:'''  I'm going to weigh in here with [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]], [[User:Conservative|Conservative]], [[User:LT|LT]], [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]], [[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] and [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] and agree, particularly with all of MayGodBless's original points above (particularly the first one - especially in Rob's accusations against other posters, and even fellow admins, of what he is guilty of doing and saying himself [i.e. trolling/incivility, etc.], his playing the "victim" when called out, and his inherent need to snark against his critics not just on Andy's talk page, but on ''any other talk page'' as he sees fit, and even to hide critical comments against him through his abuse of warning collapse templates to keep those comments from being seen), and add in more reasons why Rob not only needs to be de-sysoped (again - and this time, ''permanently''), but to have his blocking privileges removed to prevent the abuse thereof by him for spite against his critics:

::*He unjustly and spitefully blocks anyone who stands up to him for his abuses of power and his behavior here (particularly to me, '''14 times as of this post''', just to try to make an example of me) and his critics' criticism thereof, which only further proves the first of the points noted above;

::*In the fourth point (his unnecessary protection of pages), he reverts reversions of edits made by liberal editors that inserted LPOV edits, then protected the pages to protect the favored LPOV edits and keep them from being re-reverted;

::*He openly and snarkily defies fellow admins like Conservative and Karajou and, as the first point notes, he thinks the rules don't apply to him, he thinks he can do whatever he pleases and he thinks he is "protected" against/immune to criticism and sanctioning against him for his words/actions, to the point of even defying Andy himself when he sees fit; basically put, this is January/February 2021 all over again, when Rob began coming unhinged over the outcome of the 2020 election and the January 6 protests and started acting like a supporter of the Biden regime in response and started acting out against the critics of his behavior until Andy put a stop to it by de-sysoping him and revoking his other privileges (including blocking, for the reason I noted above);

::*He even claims that "site viewership has gone down" since Karajou's return and posted "evidence" claiming such - but I call shenanigans on that, as such claims (as posted in [[Conservapedia:User complaints#Hope you're proud of yourself now|the section above]]) can easily be faked with Photoshop

::Long story short, Rob is the direct reason I have had to curtail my activity on this site for the past two-plus years since his reinstatement of admin privileges and subsequent abuse thereof as he sees fit ([https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Aschlafly&diff=prev&oldid=1991681 which Karajou was right on the mark about]).  So, in this event, the right thing to do here is for Rob to be dealt with as is needed and to see to it that he can never again abuse his power with impunity.  [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 07:50, October 26, 2023 (EDT)

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