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:"At the peace negotiations in [[Istanbul]] in March 2022 with Rustem Umerov, the Ukrainians did not agree on peace because they were not allowed to. For everything they discussed, they first had to ask the [[American]]s. I had two talks with Umerov, then a one-on-one meeting with [[Putin]], and then with Putin's envoy. Umerov opened the conversation with greetings from [[Zelensky]]. As a compromise for [[Ukraine]]'s security guarantees, the Austrian model or the 5+1 model was proposed. Umerow thought that was a good thing. He also showed willingness on the other points. He also said that Ukraine does not want [[NATO]] membership. He also said that Ukraine wants to reintroduce Russian in the [[Donbass]]. But in the end, nothing happened. My impression was that nothing could happen, because everything else was decided in [[Washington, D.C.|Washington]]. That was fatal.  Because the result will now be that [[Russia]] will be tied more closely to [[China]], which [[the West]] should not want."[https://archive.ph/wip/l8Klp]

:"At the peace negotiations in [[Istanbul]] in March 2022 with Rustem Umerov, the Ukrainians did not agree on peace because they were not allowed to. For everything they discussed, they first had to ask the [[American]]s. I had two talks with Umerov, then a one-on-one meeting with [[Putin]], and then with Putin's envoy. Umerov opened the conversation with greetings from [[Zelensky]]. As a compromise for [[Ukraine]]'s security guarantees, the Austrian model or the 5+1 model was proposed. Umerow thought that was a good thing. He also showed willingness on the other points. He also said that Ukraine does not want [[NATO]] membership. He also said that Ukraine wants to reintroduce Russian in the [[Donbass]]. But in the end, nothing happened. My impression was that nothing could happen, because everything else was decided in [[Washington, D.C.|Washington]]. That was fatal.  Because the result will now be that [[Russia]] will be tied more closely to [[China]], which [[the West]] should not want."[https://archive.ph/wip/l8Klp]

So a key influencer when it comes to the Ukrainian regime was not involved in the tentative agreement that so easily evaporated. The Russians were talking to the Ukrainian puppet instead of the puppet master. Anyone who is a deal maker when it comes to big agreements knows that you have to get key stakeholders and influencers involved in order to nail down the agreements. See also: [[Essay: The SPECIFIC MONTH OF APRIL 2022 was not a pivotal point in politics that will affect politics for 30 years]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:54, November 10, 2023 (EST)

So a key influencer when it comes to the Ukrainian regime was not involved in the tentative agreement that so easily evaporated. The Russians were talking to the Ukrainian puppet instead of the puppet master. Anyone who is a deal maker when it comes to big agreements knows that you have to get key stakeholders and influencers involved in order to nail down the agreements. See also: <nowiki>[[Essay: The SPECIFIC MONTH OF APRIL 2022 was not a pivotal point in politics that will affect politics for 30 years]]</nowiki>. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:54, November 10, 2023 (EST)

:Very interesting. Unfortunately, it has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Additionally, NATO escalation also occurred in April 2022, anyway. You never addressed that fact in your [[narcissistic]] screed. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Get thee behind me, Satan'']]} 23:06, November 10, 2023 (EST)

:Very interesting. Unfortunately, it has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Additionally, NATO escalation also occurred in April 2022, anyway. You never addressed that fact in your [[narcissistic]] screed. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Get thee behind me, Satan'']]} 23:06, November 10, 2023 (EST)

::Putin's special operation escalation in February of 2022 turned out to be a run away train that is harming Russia (It is making the Russian demographic crisis worse. See: [[Essay: Russia is dying out. The war in Ukraine is making Russia's demographic crisis even worse]]) . His miscalculation shows that he is not some genius international relations chessmaster. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:47, November 10, 2023 (EST)

::Putin's special operation escalation in February of 2022 turned out to be a run away train that is harming Russia (It is making the Russian demographic crisis worse. See: <nowiki>[[Essay: Russia is dying out. The war in Ukraine is making Russia's demographic crisis even worse]]</nowiki>) . His miscalculation shows that he is not some genius international relations chessmaster. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:47, November 10, 2023 (EST)

:::Well, it's too late for idle speculation on any of that. We're not going back to the post-Cold War era that ended in April 2022. Why? Begin looking at about [[Maidan_coup#Tech_camp.2C_terrorist_training.2C_and_Hromdske_TV|March 2013]] for your answer.  

:::Well, it's too late for idle speculation on any of that. We're not going back to the post-Cold War era that ended in April 2022. Why? Begin looking at about [[Maidan_coup#Tech_camp.2C_terrorist_training.2C_and_Hromdske_TV|March 2013]] for your answer.  

:::Oh, and the [[Russian sanctions]] that took effect in March-April 2022 also facilitated the demise of the [[Bretton Woods system]] and ushered in a new era of global politics for decades to come. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Get thee behind me, Satan'']]} 23:52, November 10, 2023 (EST)

:::Oh, and the [[Russian sanctions]] that took effect in March-April 2022 also facilitated the demise of the [[Bretton Woods system]] and ushered in a new era of global politics for decades to come. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Get thee behind me, Satan'']]} 23:52, November 10, 2023 (EST)

::::The world is always changing.  But judging from the big economic problems China is currently facing and given that Russia sells a significant portion of its oil to China things don't look very promising for the future of China and Russia (See: [[Essay: Russia's economy and gas and oil profits will be BADLY damaged when China's economy declines]]). But there are good reasons to be bullish about the future the USA (See: [[Essay: The United States will be the leading power in the world for the foreseeable future]]). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:11, November 11, 2023 (EST)

::::The world is always changing.  But judging from the big economic problems China is currently facing and given that Russia sells a significant portion of its oil to China things don't look very promising for the future of China and Russia (See: <nowiki>[[Essay: Russia's economy and gas and oil profits will be BADLY damaged when China's economy declines]]</nowiki>). But there are good reasons to be bullish about the future the USA (See: <nowiki>[[Essay: The United States will be the leading power in the world for the foreseeable future]]</nowiki>). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:11, November 11, 2023 (EST)

:::::You're wasting your time. You weighed in [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk%3AConservapedia_proven_right&diff=2002955&oldid=1909432 this discussion with 2,000 bytes] thinking we were talking about the 2022 bi-lateral Istanbul talks when we actually were talking about the 1990 multilateral Conventional Forces in Europe treaty.

:::::You're wasting your time. You weighed in [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk%3AConservapedia_proven_right&diff=2002955&oldid=1909432 this discussion with 2,000 bytes] thinking we were talking about the 2022 bi-lateral Istanbul talks when we actually were talking about the 1990 multilateral Conventional Forces in Europe treaty.

::::::User: MayGodBless wrote: "RobSmith's latest addition is nonsensical. A treaty was ripped up in November 2023 implies that April 2022 changed global politics for the next 30 years???? I will remove it unless someone can supply a better source. MayGodBless (talk) 22:08, November 10, 2023 (EST)"

::::::User: MayGodBless wrote: "RobSmith's latest addition is nonsensical. A treaty was ripped up in November 2023 implies that April 2022 changed global politics for the next 30 years???? I will remove it unless someone can supply a better source. MayGodBless (talk) 22:08, November 10, 2023 (EST)"

::::::And I know that you don't know what you are talking about. Your past hyper Russophilia commentary about how great Russia supposedly is was totally debunked (See: [[Essay: Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are?|Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are?]]). And it doesn't surprise anyone that you haven't moved to Russia and continue to live the USA. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:26, November 11, 2023 (EST)

::::::And I know that you don't know what you are talking about. Your past hyper Russophilia commentary about how great Russia supposedly is was totally debunked (See: <nowiki>[[Essay: Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are?|Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are?]]</nowiki>). And it doesn't surprise anyone that you haven't moved to Russia and continue to live the USA. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:26, November 11, 2023 (EST)

:::::::User: MayGodBless wrote: [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia_proven_right&diff=2001845&oldid=1993174 "RobSmith's latest addition is nonsensical."] User:RobSmith's latest addition reads:

:::::::User: MayGodBless wrote: [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia_proven_right&diff=2001845&oldid=1993174 "RobSmith's latest addition is nonsensical."] User:RobSmith's latest addition reads: