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The dispute over whether Franklin was a lifelong Deist would enjoy life ever so much more if it could reside as a section of the [[Benjamin Franklin]] article. So I propose moving most of this dispute there. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 12:14, 27 March 2007 (EDT)
 
The dispute over whether Franklin was a lifelong Deist would enjoy life ever so much more if it could reside as a section of the [[Benjamin Franklin]] article. So I propose moving most of this dispute there. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 12:14, 27 March 2007 (EDT)
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== Thoughts ==
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Thomas Paine was not a Founding Father of America by a long shot, having spent almost his entire life in England.  There is no one founder of deism, as the concepts and ideas have been around for much longer than the 1600's.  The only thing the "founder" adds is confusion by having concepts that really don't make much sense together.  There is God, but He's stepped aside and does not take any personal role in events, but yet there's also a heaven and a moral standard used for who goes there on a personal one on one basis.  Is He a personal God or is He aloof?  It appears to be both simultaneously.  One can see why deism died out relatively quickly under those conditions. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 16:55, 19 June 2007 (EDT)
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