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::::(A) I disagree with the premise, "Capitalism is an ideology." Now, it is up to you, using an argument or sources other than Marxist, to prove that it is an ideology. But we are getting ahead of ourselves. Right now, you need to support your fundamental claim, using this text, [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/209742.stm], for the statement,
::::(A) I disagree with the premise, "Capitalism is an ideology." Now, it is up to you, using an argument or sources other than Marxist, to prove that it is an ideology. But we are getting ahead of ourselves. Right now, you need to support your fundamental claim, using this text, [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/209742.stm], for the statement,
::::''"Augusto Pinochet, a Chilean capitalist. Pinochet murdered approximately 3,000 "leftist sympathizers" to promote capitalism."'' [[User:RobS|RobS]] 18:07, 25 June 2007 (EDT)
::::''"Augusto Pinochet, a Chilean capitalist. Pinochet murdered approximately 3,000 "leftist sympathizers" to promote capitalism."'' [[User:RobS|RobS]] 18:07, 25 June 2007 (EDT)
:::::I don't care what term we use to define it; Capitalist and Socialism are two different ways of performing the same task. Whether it is an ideology, a way of life, an economic system, a belief... I don't care. Your attempts to pull the argument away from the core issue will not work. The issue at hand is the use of images, not whether it is an ideology. And I won't be using that source anymore, as I think we can both agree on the basics;
:::::*Chilean leftists attempted to promote communism (a form of socialism, not synonymous with socialism)
:::::*Pinochet murdered 3,000 leftists, to make sure that a capitalist economy stayed in place.
:::::A CIA report: [http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB212/19731027%20Intelligence%20Report.pdf]
:::::And for the record, I despise socialism; the basic ideal it promotes cannot be successfully attained, and it presents no motivation for work. I do, however, think that certain elements of socialist countries - say, socialized health care - would be of great benefit to America.
:::::Once again, the question dodging needs to stop. Capitalism and Socialism are both, let's say, "economic systems". Therefore, presenting capitalism in a strictly positive light, while presenting the absolute worst of socialism - dictators, fascists, and murderers - is a ridiculous double standard. I understand your personal objection to socialism, Rob, but that doesn't get to influence objective writing, correct? --<font color="#0000CC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Hojimachong|'''Ĥøĵĭmåçħôńğ''']]</font><sup><font color="00FFAA">[[User_Talk:Hojimachong|talk]]</font></sup> 19:00, 25 June 2007 (EDT)