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Debate:Has Russia reinstalled stealth communism? (view source)
Revision as of 02:20, June 26, 2007
, 02:20, June 26, 2007Reverted edits by Personguy (Talk); changed back to last version by Jalapeno
Russia fears the USA again. Even though democracies do not attack other democracies. Critics are murdered, the opposition is silenced. Can their be any doubt that the hand picked successor of Putin will lead Russia? If it smells like communism, if it looks like communism, it probally is communism.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 23:23, 20 April 2007 (EDT)
::The scariest part is now the KGB is murdering people in USA and Britain. Everyone knows that Putins handpicked man will lead russia, there is a chance Putins hand picked man will lead Ukraine! Did you hear about the arrest of Kasparov last week? many in russia fear that Putins not going to leave when his times up. I would disagree that russia fears USA. They think USA is weakened at the moment and are trying to see what they can get away with. But USA beat them then and they can beat Russia now[[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]]
the Neo-Soviet Union does pose a threat though[[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]]
::: Wow! That's fascinating! Thanks.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 23:42, 20 April 2007 (EDT)
THE COLD WAR IS OVER: the world has changed: the Reds aren't coming, the Germans won't Blitzkrieg the world, the "Japs" won't invade California: Welcome to the 21st century!
Oh, the FSB is assassinating people abroad, kinda makes them fit in nicely with the CIA, MI6, Mossad and every other intelligence agency, doesn't it?
I say we wait until next year to see if Putin leaves before we start making unfounded accusations.
Right now, Russia is anything but communist: it's a country in chaos after a chaotic and instant switch to capitalism which resulted in an oligarchy.
And yes, Russia uses immoral powerplay and supports certain shady regimes to protect their interests, just like China and the US.
[[User:Middle Man|Middle Man]]
:I do agree with most of what you say, Middle Man. However, Putin has a nasty track record of "neutralizing" tricky political opponents, who he knows he can't beat... --<font color="#0000CC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Hojimachong|'''Hojimachong''']]</font><sup><font color="00FFAA">[[User_Talk:Hojimachong|talk]]</font></sup> 12:38, 21 April 2007 (EDT)
Hey, I'm not fond of the man either, but I think we should wait until next year, before we draw such radical conclusions.
[[User:Middle Man|Middle Man]]
::"middle man" I love how you make inane comparisons to other countries, Stalin would be proud. You would make an excellent Soviet propogandist.[[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]]
I'm just stating facts.
[[User:Middle Man|Middle Man]]
actually, you are twisting some facts, and disregarding most. but i hope my joke didnt offend you.[[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]]
The point I was trying to make is that Russia supports Belarus (sometimes called the last dictatorship in Europe) for the same reasons the United States supported The Taliban, Saddam Hussein, Pinochet and more recently Egypt and Saudi Arabia: protecting it's own interests.
It's just something large power hungry countries do.
Yes, Putin is a creep, but again, let's just wait until next year: the last thing Russia needs is another (civil)war, it has seen plenty of wars and revolutions and nothing good ever came out of them.
What facts did I twist, according to you?
[[User:Middle Man|Middle Man]]
hey its not the West that wants the cold war back on its the russian government. they said so themselves.[[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]]
They want to become a major player again, by modernizing their outdated military, but they're not gonna take on the US, in fact they need American support for their war in the Chechnya area.
[[User:Middle Man|Middle Man]]
Russia may not be a model democracy, but neither is it a communist dictatorship. Putin has delivered economic stability and Russians feel a bit more proud of their country. Russia has oil, nukes, an educated population, a large and fairly well equipped military and is experiencing strong economic growth, so it's not surprising that it's starting to use these assets in its own interests -- which will not neccesarily coincide with those of the USA. [[User:Jalapeno|Jalapeno]] 13:32, 22 April 2007 (EDT)
==Nyet!==
The Cold war is over and is no longer needed. Now we have the War on Terror to take its place. Besides that Russians didn't call themselves communists. Union of Soviet Socialist Republics never was communist, was it? It's socialistic just like the EU is today. Whatever their politics are though isn't what makes Russia a threat these days. It's their alliances with China, Iran, and Syria. All of those nuclear plants in Iran are mostly Russian designs. Socialism has been adopted by most western countries so that Russian socialism is no longer a threat to the West. What ended the Cold War was when the West adopted socialism in 1992. Didn't you know that? What do you think Globalism is?--[[User:Roopilots6|Roopilots6]] 21:54, 21 April 2007 (EDT)