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:Sorry, but I don't accept that as friendly. In fact, skeptics of the historicity of Goliath ''did'' use the non-Semitic nature of his name to make their point--as the reference I cited clearly states.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]<sup>[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]</sup> 15:09, 26 June 2007 (EDT)
:Sorry, but I don't accept that as friendly. In fact, skeptics of the historicity of Goliath ''did'' use the non-Semitic nature of his name to make their point--as the reference I cited clearly states.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]<sup>[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]</sup> 15:09, 26 June 2007 (EDT)
::I haven't come across the non-semitic origin of Goliath being used as an argument for the non-historicity of the Goliath story in 1 Samuel 17 - could you provide me an example? So far as I know the Philistines have long been identified with the Egytian "sea peoples" (i.e., that's what the Egyptians called them, not what they called themselves); one of the "sea peoples" were the Peleset, or Philistines, whom the Egyptians describe as settling on the coast of Canaan in the area later known as the cities of the Philistines. This was about 1200 BC. Gath was one of those cities, and the most powerful of the Philistine cities, together with Akron/Ekron, at the time of David - it was later destroyed by Hazrael of Damascus and never resettled. Please read up and satisfy yourself that you really are right and I'm wrong. (I'm not at all unfriendly, I just want to get it right). [[User:PiCo|PiCo]] 07:36, 28 June 2007 (EDT)
::I haven't come across the non-semitic origin of Goliath being used as an argument for the non-historicity of the Goliath story in 1 Samuel 17 - could you provide me an example? So far as I know the Philistines have long been identified with the Egytian "sea peoples" (i.e., that's what the Egyptians called them, not what they called themselves); one of the "sea peoples" were the Peleset, or Philistines, whom the Egyptians describe as settling on the coast of Canaan in the area later known as the cities of the Philistines. This was about 1200 BC. Gath was one of those cities, and the most powerful of the Philistine cities, together with Akron/Ekron, at the time of David - it was later destroyed by Hazrael of Damascus and never resettled. Please read up and satisfy yourself that you really are right and I'm wrong. (I'm not at all unfriendly, I just want to get it right). [[User:PiCo|PiCo]] 07:36, 28 June 2007 (EDT)
:::The [[Wikipedia]] entry on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goliath Goliath] makes much of the non-Semitic nature of the name Goliath. For academic reasons, I do not normally cite Wikipedia entries in my articles. But the statement about Goliath being a non-Semitic name traces directly to Aren Maeir, who commented on the potsherd find. I have now included a reference to his comment on the Tell es-Safi Blog.
:::You are correct about the Philistines: they ''were'' the "sea peoples" in Egyptian lore. But the date you quoted sounds suspiciously like a [[Sothic cycle|Sothic]] date--and according to [[James Ussher]] and [[Edwin R. Thiele]], the Philistines must have been in place a lot sooner than 1200 BC, because the [[Judges of Israel]] fought several wars of insurrection against them.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]<sup>[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]</sup> 10:16, 28 June 2007 (EDT)