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→Lamech the Murderer: Was going to disagree.
I don't like the reference to "Lamech the murderer". It is accurate, and there needs to be some distinction between the two Lamech's but I've never heard him referred to as "Lamech the murderer". Whatever we do, it should be simply "Lamech" in the list on this page, but the link being to something else ("Lamech, son of Methusael"?). [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 07:23, 4 July 2007 (EDT)
I don't like the reference to "Lamech the murderer". It is accurate, and there needs to be some distinction between the two Lamech's but I've never heard him referred to as "Lamech the murderer". Whatever we do, it should be simply "Lamech" in the list on this page, but the link being to something else ("Lamech, son of Methusael"?). [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 07:23, 4 July 2007 (EDT)
:It is only accurate insofar as he admits to having killed ('''הרג''' - ''put to death'') in Gen 4:23, and even there he qualifies it by saying that the first man he killed had wounded ('''פּצע''') him and drew blood first, and the second had wounded him without drawing blood ('''חבּוּרה'''). The context is one of '''נקם''' - avenge/punish - so it is more correct to call him "Lamech the Avenger". His treatment as a "murderer" is really only in the non-Scriptural ''Book of Moses'' from the Latter Day Saints canon. Perhaps the links should be altered to [[Lamech, son of Methuselah]] and [[Lamech, son of Methusael]]? [[Image:User Fox.png]] [[User:Fox|Fox]] <small>([[User talk:Fox|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Fox|contribs]])</small> 07:51, 4 July 2007 (EDT)
:It is only accurate insofar as he admits to having killed ('''הרג''' - ''put to death'') in Gen 4:23, and even there he qualifies it by saying that the first man he killed had wounded ('''פּצע''') him and drew blood first, and the second had wounded him without drawing blood ('''חבּוּרה'''). The context is one of '''נקם''' - avenge/punish - so it is more correct to call him "Lamech the Avenger". His treatment as a "murderer" is really only in the non-Scriptural ''Book of Moses'' from the Latter Day Saints canon. Perhaps the links should be altered to [[Lamech, son of Methuselah]] and [[Lamech, son of Methusael]]? [[Image:User Fox.png]] [[User:Fox|Fox]] <small>([[User talk:Fox|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Fox|contribs]])</small> 07:51, 4 July 2007 (EDT)
::I was going to disagree, and say that there is no need to have the other Lamech as anything other than simply "Lamech", but I guess that [[Lamech]] should be a disambiguation between the two, in which case both could be "son of", as you suggest. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 08:21, 4 July 2007 (EDT)