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: The quote supported by the citation.  Many other citations on the internet confirm the quote.  Are you saying a word should not be capitalized, or that some other trivial change should be made?  I don't think Baldwin ever disclaimed the quote, and it was even printed in a Harvard reunion book.  Nothing superfluous about it, either.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 00:24, 9 March 2007 (EST)
 
: The quote supported by the citation.  Many other citations on the internet confirm the quote.  Are you saying a word should not be capitalized, or that some other trivial change should be made?  I don't think Baldwin ever disclaimed the quote, and it was even printed in a Harvard reunion book.  Nothing superfluous about it, either.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 00:24, 9 March 2007 (EST)
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::The words in the quote do not appear on the page used to support the quote.  That is my objection.  If there is a direct quote and then a citation to support that direct quote the page should have the quote on it—it would be nice if the page gave the context of the quote and some reason to believe it is true, but at the bare minimum I think the quote should appear on the page.  I have searched the page and the words “Communism”, “abolition”, “abolishing”, “disarmament”, “ownership”, and “propertied” appear nowhere on the page.  The word “socialism” does once, but not in the context of a quote from Baldwin.  In point of fact neither the word “Roger” nor the word “Baldwin” appears on the page.
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::If the quote is true, there should be a link to a page with the quote—if no page with the quote can be found I think the quote should come down.  But, at the very least, the citation should be changed.
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::I have, as I noted before, looked for a better place to cite to support this quote, but have been unable to find one.--[[User:Reginod|Reginod]] 08:45, 9 March 2007 (EST)
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: The quote appears nowhere in the citation used to support it. Baldwin said this before he ever started the ACLU. And as I pointed out, he purged the ACLU of Communists in the 1940s. How sympathetic could he still be towards that viewpoint if he kicked Communists out of the ACLU? The quote is not being used to butress a fact but is being misrepresented in order to portray the ACLU in a negative light. I would think there are plenty of legitimate ways to do that, rather than playing fast and loose with this quote.--[[User:Dave3172|Dave3172]] 00:32, 9 March 2007 (EST)
 
: The quote appears nowhere in the citation used to support it. Baldwin said this before he ever started the ACLU. And as I pointed out, he purged the ACLU of Communists in the 1940s. How sympathetic could he still be towards that viewpoint if he kicked Communists out of the ACLU? The quote is not being used to butress a fact but is being misrepresented in order to portray the ACLU in a negative light. I would think there are plenty of legitimate ways to do that, rather than playing fast and loose with this quote.--[[User:Dave3172|Dave3172]] 00:32, 9 March 2007 (EST)
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