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'''Question''': [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Original_sin&diff=2186902&oldid=2129525 Does this mean that "Jewish theology" teaches or implies] that man, or the sons of [[Adam]], are born [[sin]]less or without a "sin nature"? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 12:39, April 30, 2026 (EDT)
 
'''Question''': [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Original_sin&diff=2186902&oldid=2129525 Does this mean that "Jewish theology" teaches or implies] that man, or the sons of [[Adam]], are born [[sin]]less or without a "sin nature"? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 12:39, April 30, 2026 (EDT)
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:God does not create [[slave]]s. He created both [[Lucifer]] and [[Adam]] (whose seed is within itself) with [[free will]]. Lucifer committed the first [[sin]], when he rejected God and tried to make himself God (or the purpose of his existence). Adam followed suit. Hence, the misunderstanding or error of interpretation of this non-scriptural doctrine (it appears nowhere in Biblical texts), often making it entirely [[carnal]] - that a [[man]] and not a spirit being committed the first sin. What begins as a "teaching device" in earlier generations gets handed down as "doctrine". In this case, the errant "doctrine" often became that Adam "committed the first sin" by rejecting God, when it actually was Lucifer, a spirit being.  
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:God does not create [[slave]]s. He created both [[Lucifer]] (a spirit being) and [[Adam]] (of flesh and blood whose seed is within itself) with [[free will]]. Lucifer committed the first [[sin]], when he rejected God and tried to make himself God (or the purpose of his existence). Adam followed suit. Hence, the misunderstanding or error of interpretation of this non-scriptural doctrine (it appears nowhere in Biblical texts), often making it entirely [[carnal]] - that a [[man]] and not a spirit being committed the first sin. What begins as a "teaching device" in earlier generations gets handed down as "doctrine". In this case, the errant "doctrine" often became that Adam "committed the first sin" by rejecting God, when it actually was Lucifer, a spirit being.  
    
:It's the same as the story of the [[prodigal son]]. The prodigal rejected his father in favor of making his own way. In both Judaism and [[Christianity]], the prodigal is welcomed back. In fact, the [[gentile]] Christian church adopted the Jewish theological notions of redemption, forgiveness, and restoration. The Jews had it first. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 13:06, April 30, 2026 (EDT)
 
:It's the same as the story of the [[prodigal son]]. The prodigal rejected his father in favor of making his own way. In both Judaism and [[Christianity]], the prodigal is welcomed back. In fact, the [[gentile]] Christian church adopted the Jewish theological notions of redemption, forgiveness, and restoration. The Jews had it first. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 13:06, April 30, 2026 (EDT)
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