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::::Hay was important in the gay rights movement in the sense that he was the first one to organize a gay rights organization back in the 50s, which was a major achievement and took a lot of courage at the time. He's important because of that, and because the Mattachine Society became a way for gays to speak up against prejudice and discrimination, more than because what Hay advocated or believed.--[[User:Epicurius|Steve]] 10:57, 19 July 2007 (EDT)
::::Hay was important in the gay rights movement in the sense that he was the first one to organize a gay rights organization back in the 50s, which was a major achievement and took a lot of courage at the time. He's important because of that, and because the Mattachine Society became a way for gays to speak up against prejudice and discrimination, more than because what Hay advocated or believed.--[[User:Epicurius|Steve]] 10:57, 19 July 2007 (EDT)
:::::Pleae, we need all that in the article. Please add it. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 11:28, 19 July 2007 (EDT)
:::::Pleae, we need all that in the article. Please add it. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 11:28, 19 July 2007 (EDT)
::::::I don't know...is that information appropriate for the article? The article seems to be about why Harry Hay was a bad person. You know, it doesn't really talk about his life, but just says that he was a Communist advocate of pedophillia/ephebophillia. I'm not really comfortable about adding biographical information to it. It doesn't seem to fit with the tone of the rest of the article.--[[User:Epicurius|Steve]] 14:40, 19 July 2007 (EDT)
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:Hay has been likened to [[Thomas Jefferson]], [[Emma Goldman]], and [[Rosa Parks]] among [[liberal]] advocates of [[gay rights]]. <nowiki><ref>''The Boston Phoenix'', [http://bostonphoenix.com/boston/news_features/other_stories/documents/02511115.htm The real Harry Hay], Michael Bronski, October 31 - November 7, 2002. </ref></nowiki>
:Hay has been likened to [[Thomas Jefferson]], [[Emma Goldman]], and [[Rosa Parks]] among [[liberal]] advocates of [[gay rights]]. <nowiki><ref>''The Boston Phoenix'', [http://bostonphoenix.com/boston/news_features/other_stories/documents/02511115.htm The real Harry Hay], Michael Bronski, October 31 - November 7, 2002. </ref></nowiki>
Rob, you may not have noticed that it was only the Phoenix author who paid Hay this tribute. Has anyone else compared him to this famous personages? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 08:42, 19 July 2007 (EDT)
Rob, you may not have noticed that it was only the Phoenix author who paid Hay this tribute. Has anyone else compared him to this famous personages? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 08:42, 19 July 2007 (EDT)