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:I know we have to come to some conclusion on this. This page is indeed 108 kilobytes long and the Wikipedia article is 99 kilobytes long. Not much difference in size yet this article is far too short in order to properly cover the topic. Rob is right that we should spin off the text from the footnotes at some point. In fact, we should probably create an article dedicated to those footnotes. We will have to eventually summarize more of the sections and spin off the larger issues into related articles. For example, there's no way we can fully address the "censure" debate in this article. It will have to have it's own article. All we can do is keep working at it until we have it right. [[User:Scorpio|Scorpio]] 10:10, 25 July 2007 (EDT)
:I know we have to come to some conclusion on this. This page is indeed 108 kilobytes long and the Wikipedia article is 99 kilobytes long. Not much difference in size yet this article is far too short in order to properly cover the topic. Rob is right that we should spin off the text from the footnotes at some point. In fact, we should probably create an article dedicated to those footnotes. We will have to eventually summarize more of the sections and spin off the larger issues into related articles. For example, there's no way we can fully address the "censure" debate in this article. It will have to have it's own article. All we can do is keep working at it until we have it right. [[User:Scorpio|Scorpio]] 10:10, 25 July 2007 (EDT)
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Scorpio, last nite I found an excellent source that may be useful in melding some of the Buckley/Bozell material with known Venona spies. Someone created a summary page for the massive FBI Silvermaster file [http://education-research.org/CSR/Holdings/Silvermaster/summaries.htm Silvermaster File Summaries]. See for example,
*Volume 7 late November 1945"
:"Interactions of [[Victor Perlo]] and '''[[Stanley Graze]]'''."
*Volume 14 December 1945—January 1946
:"Interactions of [[Maurice Halperin]], [[Joseph Gregg]], [[Robert Miller]], and unidentified woman employed by [[UNRRA]]. Contacts recounted among [[George Perazich]] of UNRRA staff (Yugoslavia), [[Irving Kaplan]], [[Edward Fitzgerald]]. Further details on Perazich. Contacts of [[Robert Miller]] with Herman Habicht, John Marsalka, Minter Wood, and, apparently, [[Alger Hiss]]. Further background on [[Mildred Price]] (Ed note: this is the sister of [[Mary Price]], [[Walter Lippmann]]'s secretary; I had a short bio on her but its been lost somehere in WP or among wikimirrors). Extensive biographical data on Miller, '''listing more than 70 individuals''' known as contacts of Miller and his wife, including Travis Hedrick, Duncan Aikman, Alice and '''[[Philip Raine]]''', Maurice Halperin...Haldore Hanson...Howard Fast...plus additional contacts of Russian origin or nationality. Not indexed."
*Volume 15 December 1945
:"...Extensive background on Grace Granich, links to [[Amerasia]] group, and report that she was to be contacted by '''[[John Stewart Service]]'''..."
*Volume 16 December 1945—January 1946
:"...extensive background on [[Albert Kahn]] and his reported contacts including Mrs. [[John Abt]] (Jessica Smith), Howard Fast, former White House aide [[David Niles]], CP leader Gilbert Green, union leader Harry Bridges, '''[[Philip Jaffe]]'''...
*Volume 19 Dec. 1945—January 1946
:"...contact between Victor Perlo and Stanley Graze of OSS"
*Volume 25 (Part I) March 1946
:"Summary of investigative results concerning [[Willard Park]] (including connection to [[Louise Bransten]])(Ed. note: Louise Branston is the mistress of KGB Rezident [[Grigory Kheifetz]] who made initial contact with [[J. Robert Oppenheimer]]), [[Bernard Redmont]], [[William Remington]], [[Peter Rhodes]], Ruth Rifkin, [[Helen Tenney]], [[Cedric Belfrage]], [[Albert Kahn]] and his contacts, including [[David Karr]], Howard Fast, [[David Niles]], Gilbert Green, Harry Bridges, and '''[[Philip Jaffe]]''' of [[Amerasia]].
*Volume 42 April 1946
:"...'''[[Gustavo Duran]]'''..."
*Volume 58 July 1946
:"Extensive section also on James Newman, contacts with Helen Gahagan Douglas, '''[[Philleo Nash]]''', Alfred Friendly, Byron Miller, Thomas Emerson, Harold Stein, Myer Cohen of [[UNRRA]]."
*Volume 64 August 1946
:"... various interactions and contacts among subjects dating to December 1945. Among items noted are connections of John and Cynthia Dierkes to [[Robert Miller]]; contacts of [[Edward Fitzgerald]]s and [[George Silverman]] with Mrs. Frank Cameron; discussion of [[Alger Hiss]] State Department contacts Donald Blaisdell and Chester Williams, the latter formerly with [[UNRRA]] and [[OWI]], and brief mentions of Williams employee '''[[Esther Brunauer]]'''
:Volume 65 August 1946
:"Summaries of activities, contacts and interactions of subjects during July 1946. Among items covered are ...continued interaction among [[Maurice Halperin]], Theodore Halperin, David Wahl, Philip Dunaway, Maynard Gerstler, [[Julius Joseph]]. Contact between Theodore Halperin and identified CP member in DC area; further correspondence of '''Philip''' and [[Mary Jane Keeney]], detail on Mary Jane Keeney discussion with Sylvia Schimmel about Just Lunning, notation of Mary Jane Keeney contact with Lois Carlisle.
:"Discussions also of Mrs. Keeney’s contacts with [[Michael Greenberg]], Eric Beecroft, and Ursula Wasserman; background on Florence Levy, sister-in-law of [[Robert Miller]], including work at State Department and previous employment at Hemisphere; interactions of [[George Silverman]] and [[David Weintraub]], recently fired from [[UNRRA]]; contacts of Ursula Wasserman with David Melcher and '''[[Philleo Nash]]''' formerly of OWI;
AMYWAYS.....altogether there are 162 Volumes, and this is just glancing at it since last nite. I have read most of the Silvermaster file, but this Summary [http://education-research.org/CSR/Holdings/Silvermaster/summaries.htm] is the first one page online summary with links to the PDF files.
A NOTE ON WHAT YOU ARE READING: This in the ongoing FBI investigation which opened about November of 1945; the FBI was not aware of Army Signals intelligence Venona decrpyts for yet. This is between disbandenment of the OSS, and the creation of CIA in 1947. And there is no knowledge yet by the FBI in 1945-46 of Soviet theft of nuclear secrets. So what the aims of this investigation are is to simply drive security risks out of the State Department ansd elsewhere, particularly after disbandenment of the OSS, because many were seeking to be reemployed elsewhere. The object is not so much to gather prosecutable evidence, but rather to simply quitely remove security risks.
By the time McCarthy is introduced on the scene in 1950, most probably at the behest of Hoover, (1) FBI coordination with Venona began; (2) Hiss and others were exposed publicly; (3) the Soviets tested a nuke & this was public knowledge; (4) there still remained a large number of unidentified codenames and known security risks in the government. So the Silvermaster file reveals ''why'' so many of McCarthy's cases were suspected in the first place, as you can follow detailed surveillance activity by FBI filed investigators in late 1945 and 1946 with others who are now known to be KGB operatives. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 13:13, 25 July 2007 (EDT)
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