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:Ah yes, that's the ticket.  Excuse us, this article is still a work in progress.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 21:08, 25 July 2007 (EDT)

:Ah yes, that's the ticket.  Excuse us, this article is still a work in progress.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 21:08, 25 July 2007 (EDT)

== Number 1 ==

== Number 1 ==

*"Resolved" according to whom?  And after such a horrible, long process of obfuscation and denial, who can say there was any fair resolution at all?  Justice delayed is indeed justice denied. --[[User:TK|<small>Sysop-</small>TK]] _{[[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]]} 19:00, 25 July 2007 (EDT)

*"Resolved" according to whom?  And after such a horrible, long process of obfuscation and denial, who can say there was any fair resolution at all?  Justice delayed is indeed justice denied. --[[User:TK|<small>Sysop-</small>TK]] _{[[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]]} 19:00, 25 July 2007 (EDT)

::I think we should note the situation persisted for a year and half until I posted #65 here; then it was rather quickly resolved, because I exposed exactly the root and core of the a dispute as cited above.  Now, what action has been taken againast blatant violations of policy CP exposed with [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Daniel_Brandt&diff=55132392&oldid=55131921 this diff]?  As another editor stated somewhere above, "there certainly seems to be a lot of undue emphasis on Berlet's writings on wikipedia, which are widespread." [http://www.conservapedia.com/Talk:Examples_of_Bias_in_Wikipedia#Chip_Berlet]  Widespread indeed.  The first action that probably needs to be taken is him being banned permanetly, and then ''all'' his contributions meticulously reviewed.  I would venture to say, Berlet has had a hand in numerous examples cited on this list.   

::I think we should note the situation persisted for a year and half until I posted #65 here; then it was rather quickly resolved, because I exposed exactly the root and core of the a dispute as cited above.  Now, what action has been taken against blatant violations of policy CP exposed with [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Daniel_Brandt&diff=55132392&oldid=55131921 this diff]?  As another editor stated somewhere above, "there certainly seems to be a lot of undue emphasis on Berlet's writings on wikipedia, which are widespread." [http://www.conservapedia.com/Talk:Examples_of_Bias_in_Wikipedia#Chip_Berlet]  Widespread indeed.  The first action that probably needs to be taken is him being banned permanetly, and then ''all'' his contributions meticulously reviewed.  I would venture to say, Berlet has had a hand in numerous examples cited on this list.   

::The problem in WP isn't just a flawed edit here or there, it is an institutional problem, a policy stance that allows some editors to slander and promote disinformation with immunity, even when it's brought to the attention of ArbCom, the Trustees, and the benevolent dictator.  And when it is exposed, the reprisal and banning happens to the whistleblowers.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 19:32, 25 July 2007 (EDT)

::The problem in WP isn;t just a flawed edit here or there, it is an institutional problem, a policy stance that allows some editors to slander and promote disinformation with immunity, even when it's brought to the attention of ArbCom. the Trustees, and the benevolent dictator.  And when it is exposed, the reprisal and banning happens to the whistleblowers.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 19:32, 25 July 2007 (EDT)

 

 

The entire Brandt article debacle was a disgrace to Wikipedia by any standards. I misunderstood the somewhat vaguely-written and -attributed listing in #65, taking it to mean that it was a separate, additional issue with the PIR article. As far as I can tell, the list still hasn't changed, and misattributes the mess to the PIR article, without making the context clear. It's certainly a fair criticism and belongs on any list of Wikipedia's failings (although I'm not entirely sure how it establishes some sort of bias), but the current version of this list doesn't make it clear what actually happened to someone who doesn't already know. [[User:AManInBlack|AManInBlack]] 21:18, 25 July 2007 (EDT)