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→The Hope Clinic reference and the "propaganized" version of the lead: reply
:::I retract the above, but still need to add a few comments. Just want to add a few more points. Propaganda is unrelated to whether or not an idea is hateful. But writing books, giving speeches, and advocating and organizing is not merely arguring. You claimed that the word "discoursed" was archaic (though my dictionary doesn't support you on this.) I agree that discourse is inadequate, because it does not include her written and other non-verbal activities. We had war propaganda during WWII, and there is no need to sugar coat propaganda. "Evangelized" might be a better word, but it has connotations associated with relgion. What word do you propose.
:::I retract the above, but still need to add a few comments. Just want to add a few more points. Propaganda is unrelated to whether or not an idea is hateful. But writing books, giving speeches, and advocating and organizing is not merely arguring. You claimed that the word "discoursed" was archaic (though my dictionary doesn't support you on this.) I agree that discourse is inadequate, because it does not include her written and other non-verbal activities. We had war propaganda during WWII, and there is no need to sugar coat propaganda. "Evangelized" might be a better word, but it has connotations associated with relgion. What word do you propose.
:::This is conservapedia, and Sanger did start what became planned parenthood. And emphasizing this, as is emphasized in conservative circles, makes the article distinctly conservative. That it is true is not in dispute. Now, if you have a reference says Sanger had nothing to do with the organization that became planned parenthood, I'm interested. {{User:PheasantHunter/FullSig}} 23:11, 25 July 2007 (EDT)
:::This is conservapedia, and Sanger did start what became planned parenthood. And emphasizing this, as is emphasized in conservative circles, makes the article distinctly conservative. That it is true is not in dispute. Now, if you have a reference says Sanger had nothing to do with the organization that became planned parenthood, I'm interested. {{User:PheasantHunter/FullSig}} 23:11, 25 July 2007 (EDT)
::::I proposed "advocated," which has no distracting connotations and has exactly the same denotation. I also like Ed Poor's "campaigned for," which carries political connotations, which is quite accurate.
::::I don't plan to downplay her role in Planned Parenthood, and the first specific thing she did mentioned anywhere in the article is founding the ABCL, which merged with the NBCL to become PP. I don't think that wording is downplaying her role at all (and neglecting this role would offend any ''completist'', of any political bent). I don't think she had no role in PP, don't be silly; she directed it for the bulk of her life. [[User:AManInBlack|AManInBlack]] 23:37, 25 July 2007 (EDT)
== Even according to Planned Parenthood... ==
== Even according to Planned Parenthood... ==
In any event, Sanger is pivotal in the evolution of abortion in American, and she held and propagandized for some pretty wacked out ideas. Whether or not Sanger was actually a NAZI, I have no proof, but I do suspect she influenced her NAZI counterparts in Germany, as *DID* others she asssociated herself with. {{User:PheasantHunter/FullSig}} 23:31, 25 July 2007 (EDT)
In any event, Sanger is pivotal in the evolution of abortion in American, and she held and propagandized for some pretty wacked out ideas. Whether or not Sanger was actually a NAZI, I have no proof, but I do suspect she influenced her NAZI counterparts in Germany, as *DID* others she asssociated herself with. {{User:PheasantHunter/FullSig}} 23:31, 25 July 2007 (EDT)
:Yes, thank you. PP is not going to be a very good source for info on their influential historical members. [[User:AManInBlack|AManInBlack]] 23:37, 25 July 2007 (EDT)