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[[User:Aknot|Aknot]] 17:50, 3 May 2007 (EDT)

[[User:Aknot|Aknot]] 17:50, 3 May 2007 (EDT)

:AKnot, thanks for reminding me that I hadn't replied to Mackronking2.

:AKnot, thanks for reminding me that I hadn't replied to Mackronking2.

:Claiming that God did it ''is'' an explanation of the origin of the observation.  It it not a tautology, because I'm not saying that it is because that's what it is, but because that's what God created it to be.  (And in any case, being a tautology doesn't actually make it wrong.)

:Claiming that God did it ''is'' an explanation of the origin of the observation.  It it not a tautology, because I'm not saying that it is because that's what it is, but because that's what God created it to be.  (And in any case, being a tautology doesn't actually make it wrong.)

:True, it cannot be tested, but then the same applies for much of [[physical science|origins science]].

:True, it cannot be tested, but then the same applies for much of [[natural science|origins science]].

:Creationists only quote "God did it" when God said that He did it; and that's really only for starting things off; not for "any observation in life".  Understanding that God did it, however, ''does'' bring us closer to understanding reality, if that is indeed reality (which I believe it is, of course).  I would agree with you about how the craters on the moon formed, but all you've done is offer an alternative explanation; it doesn't actually refute the idea that God made them that way.

:Creationists only quote "God did it" when God said that He did it; and that's really only for starting things off; not for "any observation in life".  Understanding that God did it, however, ''does'' bring us closer to understanding reality, if that is indeed reality (which I believe it is, of course).  I would agree with you about how the craters on the moon formed, but all you've done is offer an alternative explanation; it doesn't actually refute the idea that God made them that way.

:Your comment that "at least it's an atempt to explain without evoking supernatural forces" gives it away:  It's not that the "God did it" explanation is wrong.  Rather, you ''want'' to explain things without God.  That's not science, that's a worldview.

:Your comment that "at least it's an atempt to explain without evoking supernatural forces" gives it away:  It's not that the "God did it" explanation is wrong.  Rather, you ''want'' to explain things without God.  That's not science, that's a worldview.