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::Seriously? There's a reference on the page in a section called "Opponents of [UHC]" (see [http://www.cato.org/healthcare/ here]). Or if that's too "far" for you, there's a link on this very talk page to a debate about UHC (see [http://www.conservapedia.com/Debate:Is_universal_health_care_better_than_market-based_medicine%3F here]). [[User:Jazzman831|Jazzman831]] 23:26, 4 August 2007 (EDT)
 
::Seriously? There's a reference on the page in a section called "Opponents of [UHC]" (see [http://www.cato.org/healthcare/ here]). Or if that's too "far" for you, there's a link on this very talk page to a debate about UHC (see [http://www.conservapedia.com/Debate:Is_universal_health_care_better_than_market-based_medicine%3F here]). [[User:Jazzman831|Jazzman831]] 23:26, 4 August 2007 (EDT)
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==[[Socialized medicine]]==
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:While [[socialized medicine]] is often used synonymously for universal health care, this is incorrect <ref>Chua, Kao-Ping. ''Framing Universal Health Care'' [http://www.amsa.org/uhc/FramingUniversalHealthCare.pdf]</ref>. Socialized medicine could be a form of universal health care, but UHC itself is an umbrella term which includes any form of universally affordable health care.
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#The ref is to an advocacy site, not an objective source.
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#If we use the ref, we should quote from it.
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--[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 21:54, 9 August 2007 (EDT)
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