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:Ok, so then Marxism or Socialiams (or whatever code word you wish to use), Socialists seek to restrict the fundemental, God-given, [[human right]] of [[worship]].  Further, this an excellent example of [[leftist]]s seeking to impose ''their'' [[morality]] on the rest of us, is it not?  [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 16:09, 10 August 2007 (EDT)

:Ok, so then Marxism or Socialiams (or whatever code word you wish to use), Socialists seek to restrict the fundemental, God-given, [[human right]] of [[worship]].  Further, this an excellent example of [[leftist]]s seeking to impose ''their'' [[morality]] on the rest of us, is it not?  [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 16:09, 10 August 2007 (EDT)

Really, the major lack of information concerning Hegel's influence and the respective influence of the French, Germans, and British on Marx as he lived throughout Europe in his formulation of his ideas (French utopianism etc...) suggest an overly simplified method of viewing socialism.

Really, the major lack of information concerning Hegel's influence and the respective influence of the French, Germans, and British on Marx as he lived throughout Europe in his formulation of his ideas (French utopianism etc...) suggest an overly simplified method of viewing socialism.

:Yes, I understand.  It truelly is a more intellectual exercise than we give it credit for.  [[Charles Manson]] wasn't much of an intellectual, but his recruiting talents and demonstrated abilities to persued yuoung mindas would have made a valuable member of the [[nomenklatura]].  [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 16:09, 10 August 2007 (EDT)

:Yes, I understand.  It truelly is a more intellectual exercise than we give it credit for.  [[Charles Manson]] wasn't much of an intellectual, but his recruiting talents and demonstrated abilities to persuade  yuong minds would have made a valuable member of the [[nomenklatura]].  [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 16:09, 10 August 2007 (EDT)

It is a multifaceted philosophy and this article does it great injustice by explaining it in terms you would have expected from a farmboy filled with American propaganda from the 1950s.

It is a multifaceted philosophy and this article does it great injustice by explaining it in terms you would have expected from a farmboy filled with American propaganda from the 1950s.

:multifacted.  Yes. Some advocate murder and lawlessness, others only certain degrees of it.  [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 16:09, 10 August 2007 (EDT)

:Multifacted.  Yes. Some advocate murder and lawlessness, others only certain degrees of it.  [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 16:09, 10 August 2007 (EDT)

Socialism does not necessarily attempt to create a manmade utopia atheistically (some forms have however).  Instead, the historical process is viewed as evolving.  Just as the Roman system of government worked better than the Greeks, and feudalism evolved from that.  In turn industrialized capitalistic colonial government worked better than feudalism.  None of these forms of government were perfect but in every case they were better (arguably worse depending on whose perspective you take.)  Similarly, socialism is ultimately a democratic movement wherein the workers (i.e. the means of production) cease to be exploited by the privelaged classes.

Socialism does not necessarily attempt to create a manmade utopia atheistically (some forms have however).  Instead, the historical process is viewed as evolving.  Just as the Roman system of government worked better than the Greeks, and feudalism evolved from that.  In turn industrialized capitalistic colonial government worked better than feudalism.  None of these forms of government were perfect but in every case they were better (arguably worse depending on whose perspective you take.)  Similarly, socialism is ultimately a democratic movement wherein the workers (i.e. the means of production) cease to be exploited by the privelaged classes.

:Marxist mumbo-jumbo.  Feudalism was at one time the solution to mankinds problems of homelessness and unemployment, and other social problems.  Conservapedia is not interested in spewing more Marxist trash to another generation.  We need some straight forward reporting on human history.  [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 16:09, 10 August 2007 (EDT)

:Marxist mumbo-jumbo.  Feudalism was at one time the solution to mankinds problems of homelessness and unemployment, and other social problems.  Conservapedia is not interested in spewing more Marxist trash to another generation.  We need some straight forward reporting on human history.  [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 16:09, 10 August 2007 (EDT)