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Towards a standard
:: If similar requirements for disproving an incorrect statement were required at Wikipedia, would the John Seigenthaler false biography have ever been corrected? If one wishes to claim that John Seigenthaler is an example of the flaws in Wikipedia then it is necessary to be even more careful than Wikipedia about having proof positive of allegations of wrongdoing rather than placing the burden on someone else to prove such a statement incorrect. --[[User:Rutm|Rutm]] 14:09, 15 August 2007 (EDT)
:: If similar requirements for disproving an incorrect statement were required at Wikipedia, would the John Seigenthaler false biography have ever been corrected? If one wishes to claim that John Seigenthaler is an example of the flaws in Wikipedia then it is necessary to be even more careful than Wikipedia about having proof positive of allegations of wrongdoing rather than placing the burden on someone else to prove such a statement incorrect. --[[User:Rutm|Rutm]] 14:09, 15 August 2007 (EDT)
I think we have multiple intertwined issues here:
#How certain must information be, to include it in a biography article?
#Are we being fair across the liberal-cultural divide? (That is, one standard for both sides, not "let my side get away with stuff while judging the other side strictly".)
#When is stuff like this just gossip?
My take on these: (1) If convicted, indicted, charged, or arrested, then that's what the article says: Not that "he did it" unless it's a relatively uncontroversial case. (2) I personally believe that there should be '''only one standard''' of behavior, ethically, morally, legally, whatever you want to judge people on. So if sex with minors bother you, I would expect it to bother you whether the perpetrator is "on your side" or "on the other side". (3) Digging for dirt on celebrities or politicians is a standard way of conducting a [[discrediting attack]]. I would avoid airing dirty laundry unless it has a direct bearing on a public issue the person is involved in. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 14:15, 15 August 2007 (EDT)