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Talk:Gender identity disorder (view source)
Revision as of 01:01, August 16, 2007
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::::The scientific basis that exists to support sex reassignment therapy for transsexuals has already been empirically established already by modern medicine. Near 50% successful suicide rate to a relatively normal suicide rate. Also, while the cause of schizophrenia is still unknown, we still know empirically that giving schizophrenics anti-psychotics reduces the symptoms so that they can function in life. The process is treating a psychological distress with techniques that are know to resolve symptoms, even if a cause is still not known. --[[User:Puellanivis|Puellanivis]] 20:22, 15 August 2007 (EDT)
::::The scientific basis that exists to support sex reassignment therapy for transsexuals has already been empirically established already by modern medicine. Near 50% successful suicide rate to a relatively normal suicide rate. Also, while the cause of schizophrenia is still unknown, we still know empirically that giving schizophrenics anti-psychotics reduces the symptoms so that they can function in life. The process is treating a psychological distress with techniques that are know to resolve symptoms, even if a cause is still not known. --[[User:Puellanivis|Puellanivis]] 20:22, 15 August 2007 (EDT)
:::::(a) most ancient eunuchs you refer to were involuntary, that is to say, it was done to them fairly early in life, and in most instances for a poltical purpose (there was also supposedly an artistic purpose at one time, i.e. because the soprano voice was so cherished and males have larger lung capacity, some young boys were emasculated to make adult male singers for others entertainment); (b) as to Mt 19:12, the answer is right there, "All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.....there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it." Honestly, I can't recieve it, that is to say I can't recieve the saying. And unless yourself or somebody else can recieve it (that is to say, understand it), "for the kingdom of heaven's sake," I would guess speculation would result in something quite opposite to God's truth. (c) there has always been crazies who emasculate themselves, just as you point out in the discussion of schizophrenia.
:::::As to schizophrenia, that is the term Psychiatrists give to a condition that simply means "we haven't got a clue." As t o the treatment with anti-psychotics, any generalization about that is meaningless. Since schizophrenic and pschotic conditions vary so widely, and so many are treated with the same medications, the reults are very mixed. And it is a scientific fact, that many adult schizophrenics now in the 40 & 50s who were subjected to these experimental treatments from childhood beginning in the 1950s and 1960s steadfastly refuse to take anti-psychotic medications today, and are extremely suspicious of psychiatrists and medical doctors. This is just another embarassing fact on the road to progress. [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 21:01, 15 August 2007 (EDT)