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Talk:Gender identity disorder (view source)
Revision as of 22:16, August 16, 2007
, 22:16, August 16, 2007→Iran: GID is rare in the first place... it's not unreasonable to think that most ancient eunuchs would be involuntary.
:::::As to schizophrenia, that is the term Psychiatrists give to a condition that simply means "we haven't got a clue." As to the treatment with anti-psychotics, any generalization about that is meaningless. Since schizophrenic and psychotic conditions vary so widely, and so many are treated with the same medications, the results are very mixed. And it is a scientific fact, that many adult schizophrenics now in the 40 & 50s who were subjected to these experimental treatments from childhood beginning in the 1950s and 1960s steadfastly refuse to take anti-psychotic medications today, and are extremely suspicious of psychiatrists and medical doctors. This is just another embarassing fact on the road to progress. [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 21:01, 15 August 2007 (EDT)
:::::As to schizophrenia, that is the term Psychiatrists give to a condition that simply means "we haven't got a clue." As to the treatment with anti-psychotics, any generalization about that is meaningless. Since schizophrenic and psychotic conditions vary so widely, and so many are treated with the same medications, the results are very mixed. And it is a scientific fact, that many adult schizophrenics now in the 40 & 50s who were subjected to these experimental treatments from childhood beginning in the 1950s and 1960s steadfastly refuse to take anti-psychotic medications today, and are extremely suspicious of psychiatrists and medical doctors. This is just another embarassing fact on the road to progress. [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 21:01, 15 August 2007 (EDT)
::::::Yes, most ancient eunuchs were involuntary, but even the best estimates of occurance of transsexualism in need of hormone therapy, or surgery is 1 in 23,000. Using current estimates as to the population in the past, at 1 B.C. we have 200 million people in the entire world, using incredibly simplistic approaches this yields an estimated world-wide population of transsexuals to be about 8,500 people world wide.
::::::So... we continue to treat schizophrenics with treatments that are known to be less effective than the treatments given to transsexuals. Yet one is considered ok, because we've accepted the disease, and the other is not, because we have not. Lepers were long thought to be the unclean, and cursed by God, and still now there are numerous people in 3rd world countries who get leprosy. However the cause of leprosy is now known to be caused by bacteria, which is so difficult to catch that you have to already be susceptable to it in order to contract it, even if exposed to it. The Old law requirements for leprosy did little to actually prevent the spread of leprosy, it was merely the incredibly weak nature of the disease that prevented it from spreading. Now in our modern culture, we can treat leprosy quite easily, and in first world nations it is now so rare that it showed up in an episode of House M.D.
::::::Modern Medicine has learned a lot over our history, and we're better now at curing disease than we ever have been. Just because we consider transsexuals the new lepers, does not mean we do not know now how to help, and ease their pain and suffering. Just like giving a deaf person a cocular implant so that they can hear (limitedly, but even just 10% is better than 0%). --[[User:Puellanivis|Puellanivis]] 18:16, 16 August 2007 (EDT)