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::Islam is a contraction of "Dar al Salem" (Salem in Semitic languages means "peace") Dar al Salem is perpeturally at war with Dar al Harb, or the "Realm of Conflict,", i.e. those areas and persons who inhabit those areas outside Realm of Peace. [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 22:56, 19 August 2007 (EDT)
::Islam is a contraction of "Dar al Salem" (Salem in Semitic languages means "peace") Dar al Salem is perpeturally at war with Dar al Harb, or the "Realm of Conflict,", i.e. those areas and persons who inhabit those areas outside Realm of Peace. [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 22:56, 19 August 2007 (EDT)
:::Begging your pardon again Rob, but you're incorrect. Please refer to http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Islam for the origin of the word.--[[User:Porthos|Porthos]] 23:01, 19 August 2007 (EDT)
:::Begging your pardon again Rob, but you're incorrect. Please refer to http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Islam for the origin of the word.--[[User:Porthos|Porthos]] 23:01, 19 August 2007 (EDT)
::::My humblest apologies for using Wikipedia as a source, and I pray you forgive me, and I issue all appropriate warnings about its veracity, etc., but its late at nite and I promise to do better next time. But let's look at WP's entry [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dar_al-Islam#Dar_al-Islam here]:
:::::*Dar al-Islam (Arabic: دار الإسلام literally house of submission) is a term used to refer to those '''lands''' (emhasis mine) under Islamic rule. In the orthodox tradition of Islam, the world is divided into two components: dar al-Islam, the house of peace and dar al-Harb, the house of war.
::::Ed. note: Tentative conclusion based upon a suspect source, (a) "peace" and "submission" have basically the same connotation in Arabic, and (b) this does not refer to a verb, but rather a domain, or place name. [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 00:17, 20 August 2007 (EDT)
:That might be the origin of the word [written before edit conflicts with Porthos and RobS], but in normal everyday use, it is the name of a religion, not a physical Earthly location. I tried to make a similar change, but was beaten to it by Samwell. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 22:57, 19 August 2007 (EDT)
:That might be the origin of the word [written before edit conflicts with Porthos and RobS], but in normal everyday use, it is the name of a religion, not a physical Earthly location. I tried to make a similar change, but was beaten to it by Samwell. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 22:57, 19 August 2007 (EDT)