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RobS, is this now an academic argument about the meaning of the word, or are you trying to make a case that the article should revert to using "Islam" as a place? [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 02:59, 20 August 2007 (EDT)
RobS, is this now an academic argument about the meaning of the word, or are you trying to make a case that the article should revert to using "Islam" as a place? [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 02:59, 20 August 2007 (EDT)
:Disregarding the non sequitur about nation-states, I think we can agree that Islam is not a geographical location any more than "Christianity" or "Buddhism" is. Regarding the words, "Islam" comes from '''الإسلام''', which translates ''directly'' to "submission". Dar al-Islam ('''دار الإسلام''') translates to "house of submission", as the term ''Dar al-Islam'' was used primarily ''after'' the advent of Islam as a religion. --<font color="#0000CC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Hojimachong|'''Ħøĵímαζĥŏήğ''']]</font><sup><font color="00FFAA">[[User_Talk:Hojimachong|θαλκ]]</font></sup> 11:32, 20 August 2007 (EDT)