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::However, now we have gone past the original primary source into a body of literature spawned by Koranic writing in a multitude of languages, this may be referred to as its "civilizational aspects," to use the term of recent origin my [[Samuel Huntington]] [http://www.conservapedia.com/The_Clash_of_Civilizations].  What we are discussing here is contrasting civilizational idioms.  But in short, ask any Muslim and they will tell you, Islam is primarily a place name, from which a civilization and religious faith also have grown out of.  And the Realm of Peace is perpetually at war with the enemies of God, or the "faithless", also called infidels ("kufr", sometimes "kufir").
 
::However, now we have gone past the original primary source into a body of literature spawned by Koranic writing in a multitude of languages, this may be referred to as its "civilizational aspects," to use the term of recent origin my [[Samuel Huntington]] [http://www.conservapedia.com/The_Clash_of_Civilizations].  What we are discussing here is contrasting civilizational idioms.  But in short, ask any Muslim and they will tell you, Islam is primarily a place name, from which a civilization and religious faith also have grown out of.  And the Realm of Peace is perpetually at war with the enemies of God, or the "faithless", also called infidels ("kufr", sometimes "kufir").
 
::The concept of [[nation state]] arose in the division of the land of the Franks afrer Charles the Great (Charle-Magna) most historians would probably agree.  It is entirely Western, and Christian in both concept and origin.  Nation states were imposed upon Islam, and the Arab nation, pretty much universally after the [[Treaty of Versailles]] (less then 90 years ago).  [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 13:16, 20 August 2007 (EDT)
 
::The concept of [[nation state]] arose in the division of the land of the Franks afrer Charles the Great (Charle-Magna) most historians would probably agree.  It is entirely Western, and Christian in both concept and origin.  Nation states were imposed upon Islam, and the Arab nation, pretty much universally after the [[Treaty of Versailles]] (less then 90 years ago).  [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 13:16, 20 August 2007 (EDT)
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:::I did just ask a Muslim coworker of mine and she seemed pretty certain that Islam is not, nor ever has been, a place name.--[[User:Porthos|Porthos]] 13:50, 20 August 2007 (EDT)
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