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* Von Papen was leading the political alliance of national conservative parties in the March 1933 election, which provided Hitler the remaining seats to get a majority in parliament.
 
* Von Papen was leading the political alliance of national conservative parties in the March 1933 election, which provided Hitler the remaining seats to get a majority in parliament.
 
He shares political responsibility for this. We are not talking a criminal charges, but about political responsibility. For the rise and consolidation of Hitlers power, up to the Empowerment laws, or if you like even up to the Night of the Long Knives, when Hitler got von Papen to resign as vice-chancellor. That he wasn't found guilty of war crimes is another issue altogether. [[User:Order|Order]] 03:25, 28 August 2007 (EDT)
 
He shares political responsibility for this. We are not talking a criminal charges, but about political responsibility. For the rise and consolidation of Hitlers power, up to the Empowerment laws, or if you like even up to the Night of the Long Knives, when Hitler got von Papen to resign as vice-chancellor. That he wasn't found guilty of war crimes is another issue altogether. [[User:Order|Order]] 03:25, 28 August 2007 (EDT)
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:Where is there a crime in any of this? How are free citizens exercising thier rights in a consitutional demcracy a moral offense? And given the alternative, for example revoking the ban on SA and SS to counter the Moscow directer murderers is sdomething you fail to consider, let alone discuss.
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:Where is there a crime in any of this? How are free citizens exercising thier rights in a consitutional demcracy a moral offense? And given the alternative, for example revoking the ban on SA and SS to counter the Moscow directer murderers is something you fail to consider, let alone discuss.
    
:There is plenty of information available to condmn the Nazi's with.  Using half truths, innuendo, and falsehoods based upon the Nazi's own falsehoods only impugns the integrity of the historical reporter, and makes all his reporting biased and suspect.  Such is the case with Wikipedia right now, and it is may not be thier own invention, they may actualy be just parrotting the lies and falsehoods they've been inherited.
 
:There is plenty of information available to condmn the Nazi's with.  Using half truths, innuendo, and falsehoods based upon the Nazi's own falsehoods only impugns the integrity of the historical reporter, and makes all his reporting biased and suspect.  Such is the case with Wikipedia right now, and it is may not be thier own invention, they may actualy be just parrotting the lies and falsehoods they've been inherited.
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