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:::Right. We know where all this is going, don't we? [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 15:50, 28 August 2007 (EDT)
:::Right. We know where all this is going, don't we? [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 15:50, 28 August 2007 (EDT)
::::Where what is going? You seem a little obsessed with pedophiles today, Rob. Saying that the UN sends pedophiles to commit atrocities is an ignorant and baseless argument. I'm trying to have a rational discussion and you can't seem to get past your own opinion.
::::Realists have to kill all their domestic "poltical" opponents to get in to the UN? Are you nuts? Who did George Bush kill to become president? I believe you'd call me a Marxist (incorrectly, of course) if I suggested Bush violently forced himself into office.
::::As for the Security Council there are two points to be made. The first and most important point I have made before: politics is not black and white. Just as being a member of the UN does not automatically make you a liberal, using force does not automatically make you a realist. What is the UN's process? Do they shoot first and ask questions later? No, they discuss issues for months and months before anything happens; this inaction has lead to the death of thousands of people. This is another sentence I'm putting in to check your reading comprehension. You are zero for three so far. When they do use force, it's not using it to "keep, increase, or demonstrate [its] power," which is how realists use force (it's from the definition page, by the way). The UN does not have an army, it has a Peacekeeping force. It does not build up its force to influence countries into action, it sends in force to keep the peace. Technologically, the UN Peacekeepers are not set out for warfare, and purposfully so. If you have to have a military force, this is certainly the most liberal way to do so. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 18:27, 28 August 2007 (EDT)
==pedophile Peacekeepers and the UN as a "liberal organization"==
==pedophile Peacekeepers and the UN as a "liberal organization"==