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::The tribunal said that von Papen shares moral and political responsibility for getting Hitler into power. Cool. So I take it as  admission that it was not just socialism was responsible for the end of the Weimar Republic, but that conservative politicians like von Papen also bear some responsibility. The only reasonable thing to do right now would be to remove the Hayek quote, because as it is quoted it suggest otherwise. You can either do it yourself, or unlock the article and I am happy to remove it myself. [[User:Order|Order]] 00:05, 28 August 2007 (EDT)
 
::The tribunal said that von Papen shares moral and political responsibility for getting Hitler into power. Cool. So I take it as  admission that it was not just socialism was responsible for the end of the Weimar Republic, but that conservative politicians like von Papen also bear some responsibility. The only reasonable thing to do right now would be to remove the Hayek quote, because as it is quoted it suggest otherwise. You can either do it yourself, or unlock the article and I am happy to remove it myself. [[User:Order|Order]] 00:05, 28 August 2007 (EDT)
 
::::You are still reading this in the verdict that are not there.  [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 22:51, 28 August 2007 (EDT)
 
::::You are still reading this in the verdict that are not there.  [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 22:51, 28 August 2007 (EDT)
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:::::Lets get a third person to read the verdict and see if the second paragraph says "Von Papen was active in 1932 and 1933 in helping Hitler to form the Coalition Cabinet and aided in his appointment as Chancellor on 30th January, 1933." and then to look at the end which says "Under the Charter von Papen can be held guilty only if he was a party to the planning of aggressive war" and he was found not guilty of that charge. [[User:Order|Order]] 23:07, 28 August 2007 (EDT)
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:::The Tribunal did not say that.  It said von Papen was "active in ...helping Hitler to form the Coalition Cabinet and aided in his appointment as Chancellor," and "The Tribunal finds that von Papen is not guilty."  Where in any of this is there a quesion of moral responsibiblity?
 
:::The Tribunal did not say that.  It said von Papen was "active in ...helping Hitler to form the Coalition Cabinet and aided in his appointment as Chancellor," and "The Tribunal finds that von Papen is not guilty."  Where in any of this is there a quesion of moral responsibiblity?
  
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