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::There's is nothing special about it. The Nuremberg Trials where aimed at the top of the regime, while the Denazification was aimed to determine the involvement of all people who held office, 2.5 million people in the western Germany alone. He probably was sentenced as 'offender'. The majority were judged to be 'followers', or even acquitted. Von Papen obviously wasn't. [[User:Order|Order]] 00:34, 27 August 2007 (EDT)  

::There's is nothing special about it. The Nuremberg Trials where aimed at the top of the regime, while the Denazification was aimed to determine the involvement of all people who held office, 2.5 million people in the western Germany alone. He probably was sentenced as 'offender'. The majority were judged to be 'followers', or even acquitted. Von Papen obviously wasn't. [[User:Order|Order]] 00:34, 27 August 2007 (EDT)  

:::He was tried twice because of the outrage over the verdict.  Double jeopardy goes against Anglo-American jurisprudence.  Even the Soviet Judges could not find conspiracy on his part.  And when the poltical situation changed in 1949, so did the second verdict against von Papen.  [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 00:38, 27 August 2007 (EDT)

:::He was tried twice because of the outrage over the verdict.  Double jeopardy goes against Anglo-American jurisprudence.  Even the Soviet Judges could not find conspiracy on his part.  And when the poltical situation changed in 1949, so did the second verdict against von Papen.  [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 00:38, 27 August 2007 (EDT)

::::The Soviets didn't agree with the judgment and wrote Dissenting [Opinion.http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/imt/tgmwc/judgment/j-dissenting-von-papen.html] [[User:Order|Order]] 03:11, 29 August 2007 (EDT)

::::The Soviets didn't agree with the judgment of the Nuremberg trial and wrote dissenting Opinion[http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/imt/tgmwc/judgment/j-dissenting-von-papen.html]. The second trial was in a civil court, and I guess it happens also in the US that someone is found not guilty of criminal charges, but gets convicted in civil court nevertheless. But I couldn't find much about the second trial, so I trust you that the second trial was a result of public outrage. I guess that proves that while he might have not been guilty in criminal court, he messed up politically. [[User:Order|Order]] 03:11, 29 August 2007 (EDT)

:OK, let's look at the original indictment, and then the Judgement.  Von Papen is indeed charged with all the same things you are charging him with here: "Von Papen Used His Personal Influence To Promote The Accession Of The Nazis To Power. " ''et seqq'' [http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/imt/nca/nca-02/nca-02-16-18-index.html]

:OK, let's look at the original indictment, and then the Judgement.  Von Papen is indeed charged with all the same things you are charging him with here: "Von Papen Used His Personal Influence To Promote The Accession Of The Nazis To Power. " ''et seqq'' [http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/imt/nca/nca-02/nca-02-16-18-index.html]